Biscuits Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Once you're caught up in a big crowd there is literally nothing you can do about it. Been caught up a few times and it's fuckin scary. Someone hit the nail on the head earlier - the cover up is worse than the initial errors. If all the authorities involved had just admitted the mistakes at the time then it could have been dealt with appropriately. The fact that it took the families 27 years to get justice is a fuckin outrage and if it wasn't for the sheer determination of them to achieve this then today might never have happened. JFT96 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Please refer to my previous post about fans being unable to control their movements in the crowd once enveloped within. Crowd control wasn't what it should have been? It was practically non-existant! Maybe if you read some witness accounts that would help. I have read some of the reports by the Liverpool fans. Ok, we obviously need to just agree to disagree on this as we're about to start going round in circles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan09 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 53_and_counting and 7-2, I'd give up lads they don't seem to be able to understand your argument its aw ra polises fault... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Snelders Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I have read some of the reports by the Liverpool fans. Ok, we obviously need to just agree to disagree on this as we're about to start going round in circles. Sounds sensible to me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 53_and_counting and 7-2, I'd give up lads they don't seem to be able to understand your argument its aw ra polises fault...It's easy understand that someone is talking nonsense. I've witnessed a crush first hand. People join the back of a queue and in the second or two it takes to register that the situation isn't good, there are dozens more people behind them hemming them in. They aren't trying to push and shove forward they simply have no choice. If the police had managed the crowd correctly from the beginning of the event then no lives would have been lost. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) I like Liverpool FC, but I'm sick hearing of Hillsborough. Hopefully today's decision will mean the families can go away knowing what they perceive as justice has been done, rather than give interviews to TV and Newspapers Edited April 26, 2016 by Thereisalight.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyFan Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I don't have a view on whether the fans were to blame or not. However, I'd be willing to accept the findings of a jury presented with two years of evidence over anonymous posters on an Internet forum. I don't know why this finding is so difficult for people to take? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuits Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I like Liverpool FC, but I'm sick hearing of Hillsborough. Hopefully today's decision will mean the families can go away know what they perceive as justice has been done, rather than give interviews to TV and Newspapers Unbelievable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcat1990 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I don't have a view on whether the fans were to blame or not. However, I'd be willing to accept the findings of a jury presented with two years of evidence over anonymous posters on an Internet forum. I don't know why this finding is so difficult for people to take? I think simply the way Liverpool fans have played on it for years along with their part to play in Heysal affects peoples bias. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawfield shed boy Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Fuk the polis. They get away with murder every day o week.Swept under carpet well tried. Everyone else would have been convicted by now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan09 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Fuk the polis. They get away with murder every day o week.Swept under carpet well tried. Everyone else would have been convicted by now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I like Liverpool FC, but I'm sick hearing of Hillsborough. you poor dear. How ever have you coped? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullywee Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Some cringe worthy coverage on talksport at the moment. Reading out the names in somber voices with YNWA playing in the background. Surely to God this didn't actually happen? I near choked on my chips. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Jag Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I'm pleased for the families, but the YNWA stuff is tacky in the extreme. Worse than Celtic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Yeah, coming out of the inquest singing ynwa and Justice for the 96 didn't seem right to me. Understandable, but personally, I would have conducted myself in a more solemn manner. There was nothing to 'celebrate' as such. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueDiamond Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I am delighted that the families have finally got justice. I am delighted that they have never given up, never given in to people who said they were 'sick' of hearing about Hillsborough. I will not criticise anything the families did when they came out of that inquest, and tbh nor should anyone. What may appear cringeworthy to you and me, will feel much different to them. They are the families of 96 people who since 1989 have a bond, a bond that they most certainly didn't want to have, but one none the less, that gives them a common goal. Raw emotion works in different ways, and until we as individuals are placed in such a scenario then we have no way of knowing what we would do. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I just feel that Hillsborough families maybe court (no pun intended) the media. Other tragic events at football stadiums where there has been people to blame like Bradford don't bang on about justice in the way that lot have 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Yeah, coming out of the inquest singing ynwa and Justice for the 96 didn't seem right to me. Understandable, but personally, I would have conducted myself in a more solemn manner. There was nothing to 'celebrate' as such. Yeah it was all a bit tacky and I agree solemnity was the order of the day. Assuming all 96 victims had at least one relative in court I think it was only a minority that took part in this display. It will be interesting to see if any criminal proceedings follow. It's incredible just how often the British establishment manage to minimise the impact of an important event by delay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Let's not forget that without the "tacky, cringeworthy, attention-seeking" we'd never have had such an accurate, official account of events and the horseshit that was the Taylor Report would still stand. Maybe there are some who have taken the rhetoric too far, maybe even been a bit over or self-indulgent in their public grief, but I am sure that the vast majority would have preferred not to have had to make such a massive song and dance about it just so the truth could come out and the vermin who smeared the fans rather than accept responsibility were held to account. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Great day. I'm not, personally, that bothered whether prosecutions follow, but it's good to have (still further) confirmation of the causes of the disaster. Not that everyone will accept it. So many reports and inquests have by now busted the myth that this was caused by drunk or ticketless fans, and yet I see there are still people on the thread repeating it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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