welshbairn Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Why, because of a letter written 25 years ago based on the available evidence at the time? Available evidence my arse. And anyone involved with the Sun for that length of time shouldn't be allowed within a mile of the IPSO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 It would be like having Ian Brady on the Parole Panel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Sounds like a witching conducted by the family support group tbh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_team_for_me Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Liverpool fans to blame for this as well eh? Your all a bunch of bitter twats. Hate for the sake of hating. Dont you get the fact real people lost real loved ones here. how would you feel eh? Would you just let them cover it up and blame the fans knowing full well the facts are very different. Imagine it was your daughter, your son , your dad or mother who didn't come home that day all because of the polices inability to cope . The stadium was a disaster waiting tom happen. Like heysel. Heysel would of happened regardless of what english club were playing there. Hooliganism was rife in those days and that wall was going fall. A Crash happened at hillsborough a few years before at the leppings lane end. Liverpool fans fault aye?. BOLLOCKS IS IT. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-27614689 -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Liverpool fans to blame for this as well eh? Your all a bunch of bitter twats. Bitter about what exactly? I don't have a problem with the families seeking the truth behind what happened. But I'm sick of hearing about it every other seek, and I think when the support group should butt out when it comes to making demands to clubs regards the proposal of safe standing. Fucking hell they even had a moan about not being consulted over the new kit this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Nice of you to absolve Liverpool fans of Heysel so quickly. Shame the fans seem to find the deaths as a source of amusement to poke fun at Everton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Liverpool fans to blame for this as well eh? Your all a bunch of bitter twats. Hate for the sake of hating. Dont you get the fact real people lost real loved ones here. how would you feel eh? Would you just let them cover it up and blame the fans knowing full well the facts are very different. Imagine it was your daughter, your son , your dad or mother who didn't come home that day all because of the polices inability to cope . The stadium was a disaster waiting tom happen. Like heysel. Heysel would of happened regardless of what english club were playing there. Hooliganism was rife in those days and that wall was going fall. A Crash happened at hillsborough a few years before at the leppings lane end. Liverpool fans fault aye?. BOLLOCKS IS IT. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-27614689 Hook. Line. Sinker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Like heysel. Heysel would of happened regardless of what english club were playing there. Hooliganism was rife in those days and that wall was going fall. I ll just put that out there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 A Crash happened at hillsborough a few years before at the leppings lane end. Liverpool fans fault aye?. BOLLOCKS IS IT. You seem angry. Just take a moment to remember the victims who were murdered at Heysel. Liverpool fans don't just kill their own. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Liverpool give me the boak. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half Rice Half Chips Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Heysel is a huge stain on the history of Liverpool FC. It completely overshadows all of their European Cup wins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 You couldn't get an honest report on Hillsboro' 25 years ago because of the political and media pressure to absolve the police of any blame. And you wont get an honest report now because of the political and media pressure to absolve supporters* of any blame. All police forces, all clubs and all supporters at the time accepted overcrowding, poor stadiums, violence, trying to get in without tickets. The police had the attitude that all supporters were hooligans and treated them that way. Supporters were fed up of police treating them like animals, so paid no attention to their attempts at crowd control and the clubs just didn't give a shit. the more people in the ground the better. A disaster was going to happen (again) It was just a case of where and when. The taylor report addressed all these issues and has turned it all round. At the time we thought it heavy handed. But it changed everyones attitude and we are now at the point where some tweaks could be made. e.g. safe standing. * I'm not talking about the supporters that were crushed. They were in the unfortunate position of getting in early and taking their place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 You couldn't get an honest report on Hillsboro' 25 years ago because of the political and media pressure to absolve the police of any blame. And you wont get an honest report now because of the political and media pressure to absolve supporters* of any blame. All police forces, all clubs and all supporters at the time accepted overcrowding, poor stadiums, violence, trying to get in without tickets. The police had the attitude that all supporters were hooligans and treated them that way. Supporters were fed up of police treating them like animals, so paid no attention to their attempts at crowd control and the clubs just didn't give a shit. the more people in the ground the better. A disaster was going to happen (again) It was just a case of where and when. The taylor report addressed all these issues and has turned it all round. At the time we thought it heavy handed. But it changed everyones attitude and we are now at the point where some tweaks could be made. e.g. safe standing. * I'm not talking about the supporters that were crushed. They were in the unfortunate position of getting in early and taking their place. Agree with this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 You couldn't get an honest report on Hillsboro' 25 years ago because of the political and media pressure to absolve the police of any blame. And you wont get an honest report now because of the political and media pressure to absolve supporters* of any blame. All police forces, all clubs and all supporters at the time accepted overcrowding, poor stadiums, violence, trying to get in without tickets. The police had the attitude that all supporters were hooligans and treated them that way. Supporters were fed up of police treating them like animals, so paid no attention to their attempts at crowd control and the clubs just didn't give a shit. the more people in the ground the better. A disaster was going to happen (again) It was just a case of where and when. The taylor report addressed all these issues and has turned it all round. At the time we thought it heavy handed. But it changed everyones attitude and we are now at the point where some tweaks could be made. e.g. safe standing. * I'm not talking about the supporters that were crushed. They were in the unfortunate position of getting in early and taking their place. 100% spot on especially the bits in bold. The rewriting of history has begun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I had never heard of Heysel until quite recently, certainly doesn't get mentioned anywhere near as much as the obvious.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4267 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) Interesting bit on the Liverpool website to remember Heysel 29 years on. http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/163716-29-years-on-heysel-remembered "Instead of leaving Brussels having seen our team lift a fifth European Cup, Reds fans travelled back to England having witnessed the deaths of 39 football supporters following the collapse of a wall." Apparently the wall was to blame. Edited May 30, 2014 by adam4267 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Bloody wall 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Bloody wallI blame Pink Floyd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 They're obviously bricking it that the truth might come out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 They're obviously bricking it that the truth might come out. Cementing their belief that it wasn't them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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