El Paradoja Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 If you knew anything about scottish football you wouldn't have to ask? Have you heard of Sarcasm? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Hearing the end of Miller Time was a fantastic start to the day today. However, I just dont believe that the 'Scottish Establishment' will let rangers die. There will be a "rangers" in the SPL next year. It will probably be pulled out the fire in the last couple of hours but it will happen unfortunately. There are some people in this world that really, REALLY, cannot be helped. Where are Gretna now? Hiding under the table with Spartans, Edinburgh City and Cove Rangers in case the SFL comes a calling: "Hey guys! Great news! We've got a vacancy! You've a week to prepare a bid, another week to come and present it, and if you win, you'll get a whole extra week to get an SFL 3 squad, funding and infrastructure in place to do it.... guys... guys... why are you look at me like that guys?" Edited May 9, 2012 by WaffenThinMint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooper Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Rangers as a company ARE insolvent, Duff & Phelps are trying to hide this to keep taking cash out. HMRC will do what they have always done to companys in this situation and serve a winding up notice so they have first dabs on all assets, and they will sell them for the most they can, and if that involves taking £5 or 6 million for Ibrox for land value and the same for Murray park they will, they will sell the players, the computers the club cars the club shredder machines. This is standard procedure for all at Portcullis house when the administrator cannot get the revenue the full value or good return with a proper payback plan agreed for the rest outstanding. This has happened to many companys in Scotland and wider UK in the last 36 months Sounds promising. I'm guessing they're likely to be some heavy duty shredders. As they are also most likely to be all but burnt out, though, I'd only be willing to pay a heavily discounted price for one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellboy1978 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 We used to call the Hartwood Asylum the 'Big Hoose'. Just saying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Maybe. Could there be a better parachute payment for the relegated club that they get a top notch striker that they dont have to pay for a season to get them back to the top flight? This is standard stuff in leagues across the world. Go over the pond and the draft dominates the ice-hockey, "football", baseball etc. Draft could work in many ways. Maybe its only for the top six teams in the split? Getting Murray Park for a quid in the big hoose fire sale as the start of the new academy for the rest of scottish football would go someway for rangers repaying the debt they owe to scottish football in the last 20 years? The draft levels the playing field and breaks the grinding monotony of the teams that are winning, attract the best players, so they keep on winning, get the most money, get the best players etc etc. I am aware of draft systems in American sport where there is no relegation in place. Are there any such examples in Europe where we have a hierarchical merit-based system rather than a franchise-based one? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenolly Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 What do you think, 0900 Monday morning at the Court of Session? Only another 8k posts til the 1.5M mark! The revenue may also try to prove that the tax evasion was done intentionaly and in which case try to take the rest of the money back via the Proceeds of Crime act 2002, if they can prove beyond all probability that the act was deliberate and gain (either personal or to a company) was made from it. This would leave Whyte & Murray in some serious doo doo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Should any "Rangers" fans want to see football in the 3rd division, there is already a "Rangers" playing in it. As an alternative to travelling to Berwick, should their application to the SFL be accepted, another could be brought in. Resulting in having to travel to Allan Park, in Cove, to continue in that "Pioneering way" that the name Rangers invokes within you. Both these clubs are functioning & have an infrastructure behind them. Should these not be suitable, there are another 3 clubs in Glasgow, outwith Celtic, to attend Scottish Senior football at. Don't forget if they stay in the west they can have either Cambuslang Rangers or Kilsyth Rangers in the West Region SJFA, They can spread their Rangers spirit through all the Rangers of the World............ Is there not a Hong Kong Rangers they can fuk off and follow follow though ? Edited May 9, 2012 by MEADOWXI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Quite an exciting time to be a Ger. Think of all the fun involved in creating a club from scratch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arab in Exile Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 The US has a very different sporting set up though. Kids there play for their high school, the go onto play at college, before being 'drafted' into the professional leagues. Here, kids are snapped up by clubs at a very early age. How do you then transfer them into an academy at a certain age? Im not saying it wouldnt work, but it isnt quite as simple as saying we'll adopt the US model. Agreed. And god forbid scottish football goes down the full american franchise model either. But maybe if there was a Scottish Academy, funded by everyone from out with the Old Firm, Scottish Government, SFA, donors etc. Then it would give young kids the choice. They could go straight into the Celtic / Rangers or other teams youth programs. Or they could opt for the centralised one knowing they have a career, support, guidance if they are accepted. Ajax do something similar, especially around university education at the same time, no club out with the old firm could compete with that, but maybe banding together they could offer something that would attract players over time as it proves its worth. Potentially the crowds it could pull for the "diddy teams" could make all the difference too. Best young player in the league plays for St Mirren and will do for the next three years and wont get poached by the OF in the first transfer window? The other angle is that Australia set up excellence academies a couple of years before the Sydney Olympics and punched way above their weight because of it - Scotland could do the same - will never happen with the vested interests in the OF, but the rest of the clubs could make it work. Or they could just prostrate themselves in front of the OF for the next 50 years, take the bag of sky silver and get humped week after week after tedious week.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellboy1978 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Don't forget if they stay in the west they can have either Cambuslang Rangers or Kilsyth Rangers in the West Region SJFA, They can spread their Rangers spirit through all the Rangers of the World............ Is there not a Hong Kong Rangers they can fuk off and follow follow though ? Forrow Forrow surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Cowboy Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Maybe someone mentioned to him that two Rangers fans had just been jailed for sending bombs to people they thought didn't like their club? Lord Turnbull said the evidence at the trial "made it clear beyond any doubt that the devices...could not have exploded." He went on to say that was because there was not enough "explosive material" and "there was no form of detonator or other method" to blow them up. The judge said: "It follows, therefore, despite believing the devices were capable of igniting and exploding the evidence made it perfectly clear they could not in fact do so, the intent could not have been achieved, there was no risk of injury to anyone beyond accidental contact with the nails present." In other words - it wasn't a bomb. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 So they were jailed for how many years for sending a nail parcel? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Patterson Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 He went on to say that was because there was not enough "explosive material" and "there was no form of detonator or other method" to blow them up. But they just thought they'd sent them a wee drop instead of a lot just in case they were needing any? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Agreed. And god forbid scottish football goes down the full american franchise model either. But maybe if there was a Scottish Academy, funded by everyone from out with the Old Firm, Scottish Government, SFA, donors etc. Then it would give young kids the choice. They could go straight into the Celtic / Rangers or other teams youth programs. Or they could opt for the centralised one knowing they have a career, support, guidance if they are accepted. Ajax do something similar, especially around university education at the same time, no club out with the old firm could compete with that, but maybe banding together they could offer something that would attract players over time as it proves its worth. Potentially the crowds it could pull for the "diddy teams" could make all the difference too. Best young player in the league plays for St Mirren and will do for the next three years and wont get poached by the OF in the first transfer window? The other angle is that Australia set up excellence academies a couple of years before the Sydney Olympics and punched way above their weight because of it - Scotland could do the same - will never happen with the vested interests in the OF, but the rest of the clubs could make it work. Or they could just prostrate themselves in front of the OF for the next 50 years, take the bag of sky silver and get humped week after week after tedious week.... Surely, it would have to be all or nothing though? If you give kids the choice and all the best ones opt to sign for the OF, then the academy is left with the kind of players the non-OF teams would end up with anyway and the OF still have all the best young players. The draft, then, becomes pretty pointless. As I said, Im not against the idea, I think there could be a lot of knock on benefits too, like sending the players on loan to the SFL, but I cant see how it could work without a major overhaul of the whole structure of youth football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invalid Probe Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Don't suppose someone here will know. Why are Ticketus creditors? I thought their deal was for three years ticket selling. Unless Ibrox is demolished (apart from one wall of it) they could still sell tickets. I don't see how their agreement has been breached yet, so Rangers wont owe them anything, yet. I'm sure this has probably been explained already, but I can't keep up with all the hilarity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 We used to call the Hartwood Asylum the 'Big Hoose'. Just saying. HMP IBROX - lovely big ready made exercise court too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Lord Turnbull said the evidence at the trial "made it clear beyond any doubt that the devices...could not have exploded." He went on to say that was because there was not enough "explosive material" and "there was no form of detonator or other method" to blow them up. The judge said: "It follows, therefore, despite believing the devices were capable of igniting and exploding the evidence made it perfectly clear they could not in fact do so, the intent could not have been achieved, there was no risk of injury to anyone beyond accidental contact with the nails present." In other words - it wasn't a bomb. It was an attempt at one though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 It'll be a blast when Rangers finally die though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Don't forget if they stay in the west they can have either Cambuslang Rangers or Kilsyth Rangers in the West Region SJFA, They can spread their Rangers spirit through all the Rangers of the World............ Is there not a Hong Kong Rangers they can fuk off and follow follow though ? Hong Kong Rangers got swallowed up by Fourways Athletic. They changed the name this season to Biu Chun Rangers. Biu Chun are a watch manufacturer and the current sponsors, and Hong Kong Rangers were originally the Biu Chun works team. Getting to games from Ibrox over to the Tsing Yi might be the cause of plentee ploblems however. They probably won't touch it unless they rename the stadium the Orange Wok anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Forrow Forrow surely? Lacist! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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