HibeeJibee Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) If I understand the SFL/SFA rules correctly, NO team will be considered for admittance to the SFL without (at least) 3 years accounts and any team can only be elected to Division 3 (not Division 1). So, for Rangers (under whatever name) to be included in the SFL, in any division, would need to be a hasty re-writing of the existing rulebook. There isn't any requirement in SFL rules for 3yrs accounts and according to something way back SFA's is actually "discretionary". However if as BBC article suggests it's envisaged that Rangers transfer their SFA membership (hence liability for offences/etc.), applying as if new isn't relevant anyway. But the plans can't be that good if the SFL have to be bribed in order to accept them The reforms are the bribe? It's been officially denied now, I see. So either more Chasbo Green pishing into the wind or it was the old Doncaster strategy of testing the water with a selective leak to a few dimwitted churnalists - yes, Al Lamont, I'm talking about you. You mean by SFL? Statement doesn't really contradict what BBC say. BBC say a plan has been devised which will be put to clubs. SFL say they haven't agreed anything. Edited June 28, 2012 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 If the Newco end up playing in the 1st division this season. Any Hibs fan want a free Season Ticket? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Celtic are playing a blinder Rico, were you not at the meetings? I didn't have a problem with the silence from Celtic, but with this news today, we really need to come out with a statement, otherwise it just looks like we back it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I'm hoping The Left Wing will update us on Celtic's position after today's little news story. Meeting hastily arranged for tonight, faceless figure to read prepared statement from shadows as per usual imo. Season ticket sales through the roof tomorrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1ll13k1d Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) Charles Green does not own Rangers Football Club. Rangers Football Club are still in administration and still being run by Duff and Phelps until such time as the court appointed liquidators step in to finally close them down. Rangers Football Club is dead. It still has its history but that history now has a line under it, it cannot be added to. Charles Green is the CEO of either Sevco 5088 or Sevco Scotland. He wont say which. One or possibly both of these companies have purchased the assets of Rangers Football Club. These assets consist of Ibrox stadium, Murray Park and the Albion car park. Sevco is not Rangers Football Club, has never been and can never be Rangers Football Club, it also cannot be The Rangers Football Club for the time being anyway. Sevco is not a football team. It is not registered with any Football Association nor does it have a league to play in. It does not hold the registration papers for any football players, neither can it hold the registration of any professional football player until it is a registered football team. Sevco has no automatic right to enter the professional game in Scotland. It is a newco, a new company and a new club. It has no history. It has no place in any league, therefore it cannot be 'relegated', it cannot be 'demoted' it can only be admitted. If Sevco is to be admitted to the professional game in Scotland then it must first apply to join the Scottish FA to become a member. It must then apply to enter the third division, the bottom tier of Scottish Football. This application process will be open to any club that wishes to participate, It is likely that there will be strong applications from Spartans FC, Cove Rangers FC and possibly some others. These clubs have been through this process before, they are aware of the necessary criteria for applying and they will meet this criteria by providing amongst other things three years accounts. Sevco cannot produce three years accounts therefore it fails to meet the necessary criteria for admittance to the SFL third Division. Any move to circumvent the already established process and criteria for entry into the professional game in Scotland in order to favour one hopeful club over another, will result in a legal challenge by the disaffected clubs, which will suspend the beginning of the Scottish season. Sevco are not banned from Europe for three years they are not permitted to play in European competitions because they are a new club and cannot provide three years audited accounts, unlike the SFA, UEFA will not bend nor ignore their rules just because it is Rangers. Another point to be noted, it will actually be four seasons before sevco can play in Europe because they have now missed the cut off point for submitting this years accounts. Because they are not banned from Europe the only punishment Rangers Football Club has so far received for their years of corrupting the Scottish game to their own advancement and financial gain has been to be deducted ten points, an automatic penalty for entering administration. They have also been fined a paltry £160,000, It is unclear if this fine remains with Rangers Football Club or is to be transferred to Sevco. So when you hear it said Rangers have been punished enough ask in what way have they been punished. They have not been banned from Europe, they have not been demoted, they have suffered no financial penalty of note. Everything that has happened to Rangers Football club has been their own doing, their own choice rather than pay off the debts that they accrued whilst attempting to be the most successful team in Scotland they chose administration, they chose liquidation, they chose to form a Newco. Edited June 28, 2012 by k1ll13k1d 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araminta Moonbeam QC Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Every man and his dug on Twitter cancelling their Sky and Espn until there is 'clarity'. Al Lamont has rung Longmuir who has fobbed him off. Polis are outside Ibrox. Nice calm afternoon, then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Apologies if I've missed this, but the first of John Brown's backers has been revealed as football agent Jonathan Hope. Link 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermonkey Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 one slight snag with this- If the home teams fans force abandonment, then the HOME team will be punished resulting in a 3-0 win for newco times that by however many away games they play, you have effectivly handed newco the league Good...gets the qunts back out of our league then. Then it's the SPL fans turn. It's not going to happen anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoonsLad Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 i just heard this on the radio coming home from work and I had to get on here straight away - I am completely and utterly disgusted by this. Sickens me to the stomach. If this comes to pass, I will not be back at Forfar nor will I be renewing my son's season ticket. Please, Forfar, please, don't sell yourselves for this shoddy, disgusting 40 pieces of silver. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Listening to Browns speech, but see if you shut your eyes and listen, it just sounds like some pish stained jakey tramp you hear screaming their head of in toon, he made about as much sense as one anyway. As for SSN breaking news. Excuse my ignorance, but, how can the SPL plan to relegate to the 1st division? Surely they can say no to their SPL aspirations, but I fail to see how they can send them to the first. Surely this decision has f**k all to do with them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logistics Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 My e mail is off....BOMBARD THEM!!! info@scottishfa.co.uk info@scottishfootballleague.com Emailed both of the above and my own club. This level of corruption is unacceptable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monrovianmonk Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Are we witnessing scottish football going in to meltdown? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Apologies if I've missed this, but the first of John Brown's backers has been revealed as football agent Jonathan Hope. Link Old news! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Apologies if I've missed this, but the first of John Brown's backers has been revealed as football agent Jonathan Hope. Link And here was me thinking bomber didnt have a Hope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 i just heard this on the radio coming home from work and I had to get on here straight away - I am completely and utterly disgusted by this. Sickens me to the stomach. If this comes to pass, I will not be back at Forfar nor will I be renewing my son's season ticket. Please, Forfar, please, don't sell yourselves for this shoddy, disgusting 40 pieces of silver. Tarrier Bible quote in my opinion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellboy1978 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 30 pieces surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 So after 1 season, status quo is resumed. A chance to freshen up Scottish football will have gone if this goes through and apathy along with small crowds will return. East Fife better vote against this motion or I wont be going back to Bayview anytime soon. Not sure whether I have interpreted it correctly but I thought that they were trying to ram this through without a vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray_of_licht Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 YOUR GAME–YOUR CLUB–YOUR FUTURE The Scottish Football League, for the last number of days, has been involved in intensive discussions with The Scottish Premier League, The Scottish Football Association and other crucial stakeholders in our game, to try and address, in a positive way, the current critical issues affecting our game. The Scottish Football League will today send a briefing document to its member clubs – a logical and positive communication which will hopefully eliminate some of the understandable doubt, threats and insecurities that are apparent within the game at the moment. The consultation document will fully explain the short and long-term benefits of a number of scenarios which we will be considering at a full Club Meeting next week. The Scottish Football League is trying to address the question of whether we are in a position to accommodate a solution to the Rangers F.C. scenario. We are trying to achieve a solution which will be in the best interests of The Scottish Football League and the wider game. David A. Longmuir Chief Executive, SFL 28th June, 2012. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) 1340887852[/url]' post='6382391']I didn't have a problem with the silence from Celtic, but with this news today, we really need to come out with a statement, otherwise it just looks like we back it. I think all SPL clubs back this idea. It makes sense for them, they can chuck the newco out to appease fans but hope Rangers win the SFL so thing are back to normal after 1 season. You saw Motherwells finances laid bare, we can't afford to run at the levels we are beyond this season and I'm sure the same is true for other clubs. The SPL don't want to reinvent their financial model, this includes Celtic, they want Rangers back, they want a new improved TV deal and if they have to throw some cash and a playoff to do it they will. Edited June 28, 2012 by Jim McLean's Ghost 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Are we witnessing scottish football going in to meltdown? Actually in some respects this is what Scottish football is all about. We've been fighting over money, league structures, 'decline', fairness etc. for about the last 50 years!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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