Draup Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 http://files.stv.tv/img/sport/sflgraph.jpg SFL finances graph from the SPL document. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 f**k it, lets have someone from the Raith board leading our league at the moment. They have more stones than just about anyone else in this farce. Beaming with pride, albeit in brutal circumstances! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invalid Probe Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 all this with news about moving them straight to 1st division. but don't they have to accept the old co debts. this could be good as they won't last long when hmrc come along with the btc bill. every1 should calm down. these munters will die soon. Not all debts just footballing debts, to other clubs and the likes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Diamond Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 You obviously didn't read the article. Fat Sally wasn't even quoted in it. It's a jounalist's viewpoint. I did read it,just picked it up wrong.My mistake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 all this with news about moving them straight to 1st division. but don't they have to accept the old co debts. this could be good as they won't last long when hmrc come along with the btc bill. every1 should calm down. these munters will die soon. They only have to take on the oldco's "footballing debts" ie what they owe other clubs. Another shocking and outrageous cop out ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 And where do Celtic come into this? Pish. On one hand you are through if the currants live, on the other its the OF. Make your scrotey mind up. Where do Celtic come into this? Are you really that stupid? Celtic are behind this whole plan. They are absolutely desperate to keep the Old Firm alive. Without Rangers there is no sectarian rivalry. There is no Old Firm. The death of Rangers will see the rapid decline of Celtic. It will be the end of the Old Firm. Your directors know this. They are exploiting dumb bigots like you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 St. Mirren are an SPL club, so you infer St. Mirren are responsible? Shame on you. They are. As are my club. Not all of us are too biased and myopic to criticise our own clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I mentioned earlier that the squeeze the SPL are putting on the SFL to vote the way they want is surely a case for UEFA...maybe even CAS. But, is there anything legally that can be done to block it? Oldco took a footballing matter to court and won. Is there any legal wrangling that can prevent what is essentially blackmail? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymores Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 OK, let's go for scenario 5. Sounds like fun Senario 1 - Sevco go bust by the weekend and solve the problem 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Seems like the SPL chairmen have taken a massive blue dump on their fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Oh aye, and I'm not having a dig at anyone in particular here and this is nothing personal, but this is the exact reason why fans shouldn't have gone out the day and bought their season tickets their club said "Oh, don't worry, we won't vote in a NewCo to the SPL". Stewart Milne is the only one who I've got respect for from this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 A Limerick. "There once was a club called The Rangers Whose existence was fraught with great dangers Cos Murray got duped And the players weren't TUPEd And now their first team's full of ????????" strangers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 St. Mirren are an SPL club, so you infer St. Mirren are responsible? Shame on you. St. Mirren are responsible yes. St. Mirren are bending over and taking it right up the arse here from the Old Firm. They are right behind Celtic in this plan to keep the sectarian Old Firm alive and kicking. No shame on me - as I said. If the Old Firm survives this summer then I won't ever be back to another game in my life. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 One of my favourite films is the original 12 Angry Men. There's a scene in it where one of the jurors simply decides to change his vote from 'guilty' to 'not guilty' so that he can still make it to a baseball game he has tickets for. Some of the other jurors round on him, tell him to man up and if he thinks the kid is now 'not guilty' then he has to genuinely believe it, and not just say it because he has two tickets for a ballgame burning a hole in his pocket. Here we have the men in charge of Scottish football suddenly deciding that from a position of 'status quo' in regard to our league structure, they want to completely change their minds and have big re-construction.... but not because it's right, or they believe in it.... but.... well, you get the idea. Spineless cnuts, that's the term I'm searching for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Northerner Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 And where do Celtic come into this? As member of the SPL then at best collective responsibility. However, aren't Celtic on the SPL board? Which is a slightly more onerous position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2THibs Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 So despite all the pious harping of SPL clubs in the last week that they could not possibly accept Sevco into their league on the grounds of sporting integrity, it's perfectly OK for us 1st division clubs to have them and incubate them for a year so their clubs balance sheets aren't bereft of the Ibrox pound for too long? Fucking shocking state of affairs this is. Agreed. The game truly is a bogey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Oh aye, and I'm not having a dig at anyone in particular here and this is nothing personal, but this is the exact reason why fans shouldn't have gone out the day and bought their season tickets their club said "Oh, don't worry, we won't vote in a NewCo to the SPL". Stewart Milne is the only one who I've got respect for from this. Indeed. I hung back (for financial reasons - I was going to buy my ST tomorrow!) and I am glad I did. No season ticket is getting bought until I know the outcome of this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SelkirkSaint Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I don't know what to say. I knew it was being talked about but I expected all clubs to have a fair vote and for the vote to be no. The blackmail included in the proposal is absolutely disgusting. If this goes through then I am finished with Scottish football. It's as easy for me to go down to Carlisle/Newcastle/Sunderland as it is to see my own team. I'm not sure about supporting the Engerland football team but I won't be supporting Scotland either. This is a move that will truly kill the game in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnesTON Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Absolutely disgusting and even if their plan fails we have to rid ourselves of those who are party to this move. Any chairman with any integrity must out these individuals who have been working behind the wishes of supporters to thrash out this travesty. I am sure Sandy Jardine and Ally McCoist will be demanding transparency into the decision by every member club. I keep saying clubs have got into this mess by falling for the Murray era , we now know it was a lie, a cheat, a deceit that is/was detrimental to the game so why would we want to follow in those steps. We need a change, a new vision lead by everyone not for the few but for everyone. The old firm have demeaned our competitions at every turn, a cancer. They do not want to live within the structure they just feed from it in the hope a better host comes along. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 And where do Celtic come into this? Pish. On one hand you are through if the currants live, on the other its the OF. Make your scrotey mind up. You actually take anything he says serious? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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