BigRubberFist Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Whyte, Green, Brown, Black....................... Has anyone Photoshopped the Reservoir Dogs poster yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 UEFA rulebook Independence 2 Member Associations shall manage their affairs independently and with no influence from third parties. Member Associations shall provide in their statutes for a procedure guaranteeing that their executive body is freely elected and that their other bodies are elected or appointed in a completely independent way. Any body or decision from a body that has not been elected or appointed in compliance with such a procedure, even on an interim basis, shall not be recognised by UEFA. can this apply to SKY? If so then article 8 which deals with expulsion states an member association ,if breaking these rules could be excluded 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Just walked past a couple of taxi drivers discussing Sevco FC and caught the tail end of their chat. Reassuring themselves of the continuation of Rangers with gems like "so it's still the same Airdrie" and "aye well then it's the same for us." How can so many of these guys be so I'll informed???? Because they're thick fucking bigots who get all of their news from thick fucking bigots, or utterly uncritical nimrods like McLaughlin at the BBC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Has anyone Photoshopped the Reservoir Dogs poster yet? Yes try the google images site for this thread to find it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Chris McLaughlin @BBCchrismclaug Most club reps entered meeting via back door to avoid media. Would fans rather they walked up the stairs and faced the questions? #SPL Andrew 'Bill' Whyman @bill8259 @BBCchrismclaug most? Who went through the front door? Chris McLaughlin @BBCchrismclaug @bill8259 St Mirren, Ross County, Aberdeen. Uncle Roy. Balls of Steel. He's the man! Proud! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Latest rumours are that the SPL have hired the ex-Iraqi Information Minister to salvage their PR Campaign 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adolfo Rios Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2012/07/04/4137/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadSaint Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Whyte, Green, Brown, Black....................... all together .......Pot the yellow and screw back ??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomtown Boy Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 So if Black signs for newco, does that mean, in the week that Green was saying he would accept punishments including a year's transfer embargo, he was crossing the Is and dotting the Ts on Black's contract? Absolutely no shame. Very very good point have a greenie!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairn Terrier Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 1341401644[/url]' post='6399417']Ppl need 2 lay off Jim Trainer 2 far cunto. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staggie_Doo Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Why didn't Rangers just pay back the HMRC ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Dogma Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Why are there still people on this thread prepared to accept that SKY will walk away? The only person who has said it is Doncaster, a man with his own agenda. Nobody knows what will happen with SKY but we're still giving Doncaster's statement credance by believing it. Exactly and the last thing sky wanna do is give espn or bt any football to show much less paint themselves as white knights who saved scottish football 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Why are there still people on this thread prepared to accept that SKY will walk away? The only person who has said it is Doncaster, a man with his own agenda. Nobody knows what will happen with SKY but we're still giving Doncaster's statement credance by believing it. There was a quote in the Retard today from a "Sky insider" claiming that they would not accept Sevco taking 3 seasons to get back into the SPL and would cancel the deal. I am entirely suspicious of any "insider" but the sudden push to have them dumped into the 1st division does seem to back it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top six next year Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Boycortt all clubs whose chairmen vote yes. That's what I'll be doing. Really sick fed up of this parody disgusting itself as 'sport'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2012/07/04/4137/ Can't get it. Any chance of a copy-and-paste. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adolfo Rios Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Can't get it. Any chance of a copy-and-paste. Club Statement: SFL Meeting Wed, 4th Jul 2012 12:34pm The club sent two directors to attend the meeting of the SFL clubs yesterday and they have reported back to the Board. The meeting and conversations covered the best part of 5 hours but there were only a few overarching themes. The clear message portrayed is that Scottish Football is in a very dark place indeed and there is simply no good solution to what is now a structural problem that has gone beyond a one dimensional issue of where Rangers should play next season. No matter what happens now there is going to be enormous fallout across the Scottish game. Whether some good can be extracted from the impending mess will depend entirely on the SPL clubs, guided by the currently absent leadership of the SFA. Neil Doncaster wanted only one thing from the meeting, to get a steer from the SFL clubs whether they would allow Rangers into SFL1. He talked the clubs through a detailed explanation of where the SPL clubs would lose £16m next season if Rangers were not entered to the top division of the SFL. This was delivered as a matter of fact, it was a "reality". It seems that most, if not all, major sponsors of the SPL have exit clauses if either of the 'Old Firm' are not within the SPL. The total figure was not new, but the detail behind the number and its impact on individual clubs in the SPL was set out clearly. There were challenges made regarding the flip side of saving the central income from sponsors and media, the obvious impact of loss of supporters to the game who have strongly voiced their intent. Supporter reaction has not been factored in, again there are realities, the SPL clubs are waiting on their Sky cheques in August and clearly that was more important. Nowhere in the presentation was account taken on the impact to the finances of clubs, and more importantly the relevance of the game, should supporters stay at home. The consequential impact on the SFL from the presentation was that the SFL would lose its entitlement to circa £2m per annum from the Settlement Agreement put together to compensate the SFL for the SPL breakaway, this was made very clear by Neil Doncaster. He told the clubs that if the SPL didn't have the money then they could not pay the SFL. The reality however, which was clear from the detailed figures, is that the SPL, whilst losing an enormous amount of funding, would have the cash to make payment; it is just that the SPL would not meet the legal obligation to the SFL as the cash would be used to finance the SPL teams. The undeniable statement made on behalf of the SPL is commercially understandable. The SPL would not allow £16m to flow out of their coffers, the impact would be too catastrophic for the SPL clubs to contemplate and as such the only options are that Rangers enter SFL1 or, as a less attractive backstop, a breakaway SPL2 will be formed. There is no prospect, from an SPL point of view, that SFL3 can be allowed to happen. Neil Doncaster was delivering a very unpalatable proposition and he did it clearly and effectively, hence the representatives of Clyde Football Club understood that the only thing that mattered was the impact on SPL clubs from the loss of money from media and sponsors. It was to the credit of every SFL club, and probably to the surprise of Neil Doncaster, that nobody asked him to improve on the £1m offer. The SFL clubs were given a steer for themselves by Neil Doncaster, if the SFL could not tell him how they might vote, then he would expect the SPL clubs not to vote at their meeting either. There were a few new things learned in the meeting, not least that the rules of the SFL would allow any club accepted into the SFL, by a simple majority, to be placed in any division. The rules do not state, nor imply, that they must join at the bottom tier, only custom and practice around good governance and integrity has seen teams join in the bottom tier. In addition, the attendees at the meeting were left in absolutely no doubt whatsoever by Stewart Regan that if the SPL clubs voted to allow a Newco into the SPL then it would be blocked by the SFA refusing to transfer the SFA membership. It was however caveated well enough to make it less than an absolute statement. The meeting was full of implied actions and outcomes, the use of clever language when delivering the speeches allows anyone to defend with ‘that is not what I said'. However, nobody will have left the meeting with anything other than the very clear messages being put across. Denials of the substance of the message being delivered do not assist anyone in this absolutely dreadful situation. There will be no winners. Any level of integrity for the sport will be lost by one outcome and financial collapse, we are told, will fall upon the SPL with the other. Sadly, the SFA and SPL have decided that whilst they say they are looking for a collaborative solution, they have very clearly made sure that by their own inaction that the blame will sit with the SFL - no matter what the outcome. The Board of the SFL are being put under intolerable pressure by the other bodies looking to avoid the implications of properly applying their own governance procedures. In summary, the SFA implication is that there will be no entry to the SPL. The SPL implication is that it therefore has to be SFL1 with a bit of restructure, or an SPL2 with the rest of the SFL cut adrift. There were no other options. Whilst Stewart Regan said that the SFA did not favour an SPL2, there was no equivalent abhorrence of that proposal as was attached to the proposal for a Newco in the SPL, leaving the implication that the door remains wide open for the SPL to secure their £16m with or without the SFL. The Board of the club will consider the feedback from its representatives and also the outcomes of the next few days and will keep its supporters fully appraised, but in the meantime see no reason to amend any previous comment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Thistle now confirmed as NO to Sevco5088 in SFL1, according to the BBC updates page. Most of us had them down as a sly YES as well. Rangers now need 12 out of the "undecided 14" votes. Not happening. The SPL will have to do the impossible- gerrymander a newco straight into their league and face UEFA- or they'll just have to live with Sevco in Div3 IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fueradejuego Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 The SPL will obviously defer a vote forcing the SFL to make a decision and tidy up a mess which they played no part in creating. If the SFL vote Sevco 5088 into the 1st division, the SPL have no need to meet and formally vote. if the SFL vote Sevco 5088 into the 3rd division, it's a certainty the SPL will then convene a meeting and re-admit Rangers to the SPL with a series of sanctions. What should the SFL do when they meet next week? Why not follow the lead of the SPL? Defer a decision on Rangers and force the SPL to decide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Heid Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Heard that the following deal has been agreed. SPL will now accept the Rangers Newco, but will impose a retrospective points deduction on last seasons points. This points deduction will see Rangers relegated to division 1. The only remaining issue to be resolved is over the promotion of Dundee or relegation of Dumfermline as to who becomes team 12. Obviously Dumfermline are suggesting they were no longer the bottom club and as such should not be relegated. Dundee are obviously saying that the penalty on Rangers was in addition and as such they should be promoted. This deal satisfies all within the SPL from a financial perspective and appeases their fans by not allowing the Rangers Newco into the SPL for 2012-13. It also bypasses any potential issues that may arise from SFL Clubs not allowing the Rangers Newco straight into the 1st Division. SKY are happy and will not now rescind their contract with Scottish Football. You heard it hear first!!!!!!!!!!!!! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Why didn't Rangers just pay back the HMRC ? They are the people, HMRC needs Rangers, Sky would stop carrying the Parliament channel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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