DeeGeeOneHamer Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Am I right in saying your chairman is a shareholder in TCFKAR ? Don't think Billy Hewitson is (I stand to be corrected) but the Commercial Director, Mark Robertson, is one of 'the peepul'. I am truly dismayed and embarrassed that Stranraer and Annan have made their stances clear (in the right camp as well) and we are shuffling in the background hoping beyond hope they don't make public who surrendered. I contacted Mr Robertson and laying out my concerns, and I have received nothing in return, not an acknowledgement receipt nothing. Well nothing is what they will get from me if they go with Regan et al. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Grant Russell @STVGrantLivingston chairman Gordon McDougall says his club will vote for newco Rangers in Div 3. Now 17-2 in projected votes.http://bit.ly/L3HH2U Collapse Reply Retweet Favorite bouyant mood in sevco??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I'm pretty sure Giovanni Di Stefano was his lawyer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooper Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Phil MacGiollaBhain @PmacgiollabhainThe mood is one of "bravado" inside Sevco this morning regarding entry to SFL1. They are V confident. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite Whistling by the graveyard? Have they launched a new glossy proposal document? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 If there are any Clyde fans on ATM, do you happen to know who was resposible for Tuesday's statement re. tomorrow's meeting ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooper Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Do you think Green will produce a new brochure or just use the one from the SPL meeting? Damn! Beat me to it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steak Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 What they seem to have forgotten is that when Sevco are decomposing in division three the power will have shifted and the other clubs will force through whatever changes to the running of the game they see fit. I think thats the key point. Whatever the outcome, there will be a shift of power away from Glasgow. The other clubs will be more than happy to dump MK Rangers into the third division in order to have more time to enact the changes in the Scottish game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Phil McScrabblescore knows as much about goings on inside Newco as any of us. And going by that tweet, far less. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Taranbino Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Stirling Albion are a definate no to division one. They were a no the other week and nothing has changed going into tomorrow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 R.e. last nights queries about Brechin, looks like they're voting Yes, convinced by restructuring promises. http://www.pieandbov...ost__p__6420695 It's interesting how ostensibly similar clubs end-up at different views, isn't it. You have Arbroath + Brechin... 2 Angus clubs, 2 part-time SFL2 clubs, I'm right in saying 2 clubs not ltd companies (but still governed by committee), and 2 clubs providing reps to SFL Board... yet within hours of each other they reach diametrically opposite conclusions. Thats because our club has a spine. Very proud to be a lichtie right now! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Does anybody know the amount of votes Sevco need to get into Division 1? Is it just 51%? They need 51% of the votes which, of course, does not necessarily mean they need 16 votes because there might be abstentions. It is a disciplinary offence for clubs not to vote, but there is no fixed penalty - it might just be a small fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgf Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Are they actually voting on div 3? or just yes or no to div 1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Is this correct? From memory tbf. Revised List No the Newco Cowdenbeath Dunfermline Livingston Morton Raith Rovers East Fife Ayr United Arbroath Stranraer Stirling Albion Queen's Park Peterhead Elgin City Clyde Berwick Rangers Annan Sold their souls Dumbarton Stenhousemuir Brechin City Albion Rovers Da ken yet Hamilton Forfar QoS Falkirk Partick Thistle Alloa Montrose East Stirling Nae allowed to vote Dundee Airdrie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Just emailed my club wishing them good luck and to do the right thight tommorrow. Its been fun watching the near melt down of the Daily Old Firm Record the last couple of days. Poor old jorno's must have had hard time trying to keep up retyping out all of the PR guff that was being phoned in by SPL/Charles Green people. As of tommorrow they might actually have to write about the scottish game properly, a few of them might actually start trying to cultivate the wider audience and have whole articles that dont mention "Old Firm" at all. I hope that after tommorrow we can all get behind our game, that the media will do its best to encourage people to get back to their clubs and go to games. If they dont their papers will shrivel even more. After tommorrow lets all get positive about our game. Well said mate. One thing though, I think SFL should demand funds for a rehab unit for these poor old jornos if SFL punt them to 3rd. We must show compassion in victory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRubberFist Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I am truly dismayed and embarrassed that Stranraer and Annan have made their stances clear (in the right camp as well) and we are shuffling in the background hoping beyond hope they don't make public who surrendered. I contacted Mr Robertson and laying out my concerns, and I have received nothing in return, not an acknowledgement receipt nothing. The cringeworthy 'blog' on the OS has been quiet of late, hasn't it...? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Are they actually voting on div 3? or just yes or no to div 1 The way the original resolution was worded meant they were effectively only voting on Division 1 or nothing. Although it referred to the Third Division, it was not a genuine alternative. The resolution may have been changed since it was published but I haven't seen it if it has. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeGeeOneHamer Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 The cringeworthy 'blog' on the OS has been quiet of late, hasn't it...? Even if we did come out and say 'No' now, we'd be late to the dance as 17 others have had the balls and integrity to say 'No'. It's fookin shameful, it really really is. And yes that 'blog' is cringe-worthy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castilla Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) Why are they very confident? By all accounts the vote is going to go massively against them. Could it possibly be that the outcome has already been decided DESPITE the vote. TBH I firmly believe that the decision for Div 1 (and much more besides) has already been made. I sincerely hope I am wrong, but the entire tactic so far by the SFA has been to drive a Chieftan Tank the wrong way up a one way street. Yes, the vote is going massively against them. BUT, is it a secret ballot ? OR, is the ultimate decision to be made by the clubs, or by the board ? I remember from my Trades Union days, going into meetings and securing the full and unequivocal support of the members. But in private they voted the other way. I also remember when that support materialised, how the management moved the goalposts to get their way. I have similar feelings about this vote. Edited July 12, 2012 by castilla 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Is this correct? From memory tbf. Revised List No the Newco Cowdenbeath Dunfermline Livingston Morton Raith Rovers East Fife Ayr United Arbroath Stranraer Stirling Albion Queen's Park Peterhead Elgin City Clyde Berwick Rangers Annan Sold their souls Dumbarton Stenhousemuir Brechin City Albion Rovers Da ken yet Hamilton Forfar QoS Falkirk Partick Thistle Alloa Montrose East Stirling Nae allowed to vote Dundee Airdrie Dumarton are a Dont Know 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty 218 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) The cringeworthy 'blog' on the OS has been quiet of late, hasn't it...? To be fair I emailed this to Mark Robertson a couple of weeks ago : "As a long-term supporter (now expat, so don't get to many games!) I am dismayed at the current shennanigans surrounding the 'accomodation' of the Newco formed out of the demise of Rangers FC. It is my understanding following press reports, that there is a 'proposal' of reforming the SPL/SFL solely in order to accommodate the Newco FC in an SPL2. I sincerely hope that this proposal is not supported by Queen of the South FC. It is an obvious point that we were defeated in the Scottish Cup Final by a team which has been found to be living beyond their means, utilizing EBTs, and not paying appropriate levels of Tax. These issues surrounding Rangers FC are now well documented and Rangers FC are now undergoing liquidation. The Newco (which to be honest will have exactly the same identity as Rangers FC!) seem to be treated with kid gloves. This is a New Company and no more entitled to a place in the 'new' league set up than any other new company or ambitious junior team. Why should they get into a league, just for asking, when many teams have struggled within their means to achieve such a status? League reformation does need to occur most supporters know this but surely it should occur independently of pandering to Rangers FC? By all means restructure, adopt a pyramid system, have play-offs but this should not be to accommodate Rangers FC (Newco FC)!!! The Newco if admitted anywhere should be admitted at the bottom of SFL3. End of story. I hope that I'm not the only voice that is objecting to this proposal. I am sure that many fans would just give up if the SFA/SPL/SFA 'accomodated' these cheats. It will NOT benefit Scottish Football it will make it a laughing stock. I sincerely hope that Queen of the South FC do the right thing." The response I got (and at least I got one was :- Nice to hear from you. You can rest assured that if and when the Board of QOS asked for their opinion, they will do so with the best interests of QOS and Scottish football at heart. Mark R Edited July 12, 2012 by Rusty 218 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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