HibeeJibee Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Surely, one thing is clear - the SFL don't need to do anything. At present they have a full complement of clubs and a fixture list to suit. True. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooper Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) I would sell my wife, children, and even my Tom Waits collection to pay for the privilege of delivering the coup de grace on Doncaster. For me, this odious turd epitomises everything that stinks about this whole affair. Edit for didgy spalling Edited July 12, 2012 by Drooper 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Taranbino Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Disgusted at Ayr if true! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Thats because our club has a spine. Very proud to be a lichtie right now! I have no idea what clubs who vote yes think they are doing. They are ignoring the views of their own fans to milk a season's worth of Rangers fans. In this case, I'm proud to be in the moral majority. The uniformity of belief is remarkable. Apart from half a dozen chairmen... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeGeeOneHamer Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Genuine question - what would you rather see instead? Mark is on holiday and has been for two weeks, which is why there has been no blog posts and, presumably, why you havent had a reply to your email. I'd rather see a No. It's not a hard decision is it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L J Gibbs Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Ayr and Killie newco lapdogs:-( Jambuns,Sevcos brother 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Jambuns,Sevcos brother Lol not a chance we are all no to newco:-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Bloody hell. Firstly, a strongly-worded statement pulling few punches. Secondly, you doubt Broadwood's now on Regan 'n Doncaster's Christmas card lists... Clyde's new statement regarding the proposals.: ... The overwhelming reality is that we are being asked to make one of the most important decisions for Scottish Football in a vacuum devoid of factual information, that vacuum having been filled with unhelpful rhetoric and scaremongering by the chief executives of the SFA and SPL. ... It was clear that the resolutions marked a clear departure from all previous process and custom and practice when considering admitting a team to the SFL, albeit operating within the rules of the SFL. It was in that context which we considered the resolutions. ... The reason for this is that once entered to the SFL in the manner proposed under Resolution 1, we understand that it is within the power of the Board of the SFL to place a club into any league of their choosing. We believe that, due to the intolerable pressure placed on the SFL board to date by external parties, this resolution should be explicit to avoid the Board coming under pressure from either the SFA or SPL in the event that Resolution 2 is rejected. ... This is clearly a matter of haste and again driven by an external agenda, perhaps because Sevco have not lodged an application to join the SFL then they have not submitted any information. ... There is no need to prepare an exhaustive list of the issues as they are well publicised, however the extent of outstanding sanctions that may or may not be levied against a club which has yet to obtain SFA membership, together with the increasing number of possible commercial and legal challenges to the transactions to date simply presents a significant risk to the ability of the club to fulfil its fixtures in any league. ... However, until we receive enough information to inform such a decision then we are being pushed into a corner which would actually leave any club making a logical decision arrive at the conclusion that Resolution 1 should not be supported. The SFA could assist the process by transferring the SFA membership to Sevco prior to the Friday meeting if they have satisfied themselves of fit and proper tests and have carried out their own diligence on the viability of the club and the various legal challenges.Resolution 2 suffers from the same issues as Resolution 1, in that no information of any sort about Sevco, not even whether it will obtain SFA membership, leaves no possibility of making a decision about entry to the SFL based on facts or logic. ... It was impossible to engage with this concept without continually bearing in mind that the SFA had already undermined the prospects for any integrity to be maintained by making it clear that failure to deal with the admission of a newco to SFL3 would be a dereliction of duty. In effect posting notice that no matter what decision is taken by the SFL clubs to administer their league, the SFA would not tolerate anything other than SFL 1, an equivalent point having been made by Neil Doncaster on behalf of the SPL clubs. ... we have no faith in the parties that the new arrangements would be negotiated with. Their behaviour to date is evidence enough for us. ... As it stands, we have no information on the proposals other than that distributed in advance of the meeting last week and no confidence in the parties that will control the process outside of the SFL. As such we would vote no to Resolution 2.Resolution 3, as many have pointed out this resolution seems presumptuous as no invitation has been issued from the SPL to either club. Again, this arises because of the external pressures, the haste and the failure of other bodies to complete their own processes. ... In summary, the complete absence of information on Sevco Scotland Ltd renders it impossible to vote with any logic in favour of any of the Resolutions. The default in these circumstances would unfortunately be to vote against. We hope and trust that this unacceptable situation will be resolved swiftly and will allow Clyde Football Club to support Resolution 1 from an informed position and will see Rangers Football Club playing in SFL3. We see Resolution 2 as a matter of trust and it would take a change of personnel and attitude for us to be confident that David Longmuir would be entering discussions with a group of people committed to a collaborative process in a spirit of genuine partnership.In the current circumstances our only decision could be to vote against Resolution 2. Subject to a satisfactory outcome on Resolution 1 we would support Resolution 3. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alimci Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 (ii) That the Scottish Football League Members direct the Board of Management of The Scottish Football League (the "Board") to provide that Rangers F.C. shall play in the Third Division of the Scottish Football League during Season 2012/13 unless the Board shall have to its satisfaction negotiated and reached agreement with The Scottish Premier League and The Scottish Football Association on a series of measures which the Board shall consider to be in the best interests of the game, how it is structured, how it is governed and how it is financed, whereupon the Board shall be authorised to provide that Rangers F.C. shall play in the First Division of the Scottish Football League during Season 2012/13. Was doing fine up to "unless". What I don't get still is why the Dunfermline/Dundee issue is being discussed along with this. This should have been settled the minute the SPL said no to Sevco. There is no link between the two issues now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I'd rather see a No. It's not a hard decision is it? I was talking about the "cringeworthy blog" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xj2011 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I see the Daily Ranger is going with the headlines like; "WE CANNOT AFFORD SPORTING INTEGRITY" and "1ST DIVISION IS ENOUGH PUNSIHMENT ALREADY" WHY are they not pulling up Doncaster for his LIES? WHY are they not questioning the paltry TV deal with SKY? WHY are they not questioning why sponsors have clauses in their contracts that says they can pull out if there is not 4 old firm derbies a season? What an ABSOLUTE rag that is... pathetic excuse for journalism 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I love Clyde FC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Graeme Macpherson @Graeme_MacphersDumbarton deny they have agreed to vote yes to Rangers newco in Div 1. http://www.dumbartonfootballclub.com/news/?mode=view&id=4036 Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghPar1975 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 If its true that the amendment tabled by Clyde has been dismissed then the clubs have only one option left to them....don't vote Sevco into the league. The dismissal of the amendment would be the only way left for Longmuir, Regan and Doncaster to worm Sevco into SFL1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghPar1975 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 If its true that the amendment tabled by Clyde has been dismissed then the clubs have only one option left to them....don't vote Sevco into the league. The dismissal of the amendment would be the only way left for Longmuir, Regan and Doncaster to worm Sevco into SFL1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrshireTon Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 If its true that the amendment tabled by Clyde has been dismissed then the clubs have only one option left to them....don't vote Sevco into the league. The dismissal of the amendment would be the only way left for Longmuir, Regan and Doncaster to worm Sevco into SFL1. They will simply put Sevco into the SPL again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutz_the_Squirrel Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Great to see the majority of SFL clubs coming out to say 'Sevco to 3rd Division'. Bear in mind though that this is immaterial. They WILL be in the 1st next season- " unless the Board shall have to its satisfaction negotiated and reached agreement with The Scottish Premier League and The Scottish Football Association on a series of measures which the Board shall consider to be in the best interests of the game, how it is structured, how it is governed and how it is financed, whereupon the Board shall be authorised to provide that Rangers F.C. shall play in the First Division of the Scottish Football League during Season 2012/13." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Think you will find Hearts voted NO! It's also becoming abundantly clear that there was already movements afoot to bring intolerable pressure on SFL to let Rangers straight into the First Division. Infact for all we know Michael Johnstone abstained in opposition to this, not support for Newco into SPL. Until we know which SPL clubs knew what, when, there's no space for arrogance over what SPL clubs did, and why they did it. I include Hibs in that as much as any other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamski Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 The response I got (and at least I got one was :- Nice to hear from you. You can rest assured that if and when the Board of QOS asked for their opinion, they will do so with the best interests of QOS and Scottish football at heart. Mark R Are you satisfied with that reply? I certainly wouldn't be. It could hardly be any more vague. Incidentally, a friend of mine received a nearly identical reply. The Queens board have missed the opportunity to show any leadership on this, but with the majority of clubs against the proposals they've at least got a bandwagon that they could jump on without rocking any boats in Scottish football or upsetting any more fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steak Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I see the Daily Ranger is going with the headlines like; "WE CANNOT AFFORD SPORTING INTEGRITY" and "1ST DIVISION IS ENOUGH PUNSIHMENT ALREADY" WHY are they not pulling up Doncaster for his LIES? WHY are they not questioning the paltry TV deal with SKY? WHY are they not questioning why sponsors have clauses in their contracts that says they can pull out if there is not 4 old firm derbies a season? What an ABSOLUTE rag that is... pathetic excuse for journalism Because of Traynor. He is the worst of the lot. Remember when Farry died? Traynor insisted that he was hounded out in a witch hunt for being "too good at his job". Despite being found guilty by an independent panel. Something that Regan wants to be rid of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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