HibeeJibee Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 "Preferrable but not a requirement" is usually the waffle on these things, isn't it. I see. I'm a 14-year-old keyboard warrior living in my attic, could this be a hindrance? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 their catering/merchandise operations were already sold up the Swannee by Minty? I assume that this is void given the collapse of oldco. The outsourced caterers and merchandisers are just another bunch of creditors who will see tuppence back after H&D are done with the liquidation proceeds. Presumably this also means they're not on the Sevco payroll, so other grumpy bottle-blonde teenagers will need to be press-ganged into burger service. Broadfoot can maybe miss the half-time talk to punt up the stairs and ensure they're sufficiently whipped. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jul/16/rangers-spl-danger-financial-collapse?CMP=twt_gu Not a terrible piece, but somewhat uncritical considering that David Conn has been the authoritative source on Leeds's shenanigans for quite some time. If everyone else survived, I thought they would. They still might. Portsmouth's odds on survival are fairly slim right now as well. Darlington were given no lifelines prior to their resurrection either (indeed they even precipitated a ban on phoenix clubs using "AFC Oldco" to retain a relation with the past). The honeymoon may be over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kong Bundy Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 That's what I think is still going to happen, then we'll see a few RFC splinter clubs starting up They could use this free season to start the 'Big House Invitational', playing Rangers-minded teams from all over the globe. Linfield at home would draw the crowds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huistrinho Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Underlying a lot of these shenanigans is the issue of what a football club actually is. Is this me slyly digging at 'Rangers FC' claims to keep its history? No. We can't sort this out for Rangers now by a change of rules - whether 'Rangers' are a new club, a continuation of the old club, or whatever is something that will have to be decided in the absence of rules or a system. But with the likelihood of other clubs facing financial woes, a ready answer to the question "when does a club cease to be that club" would be very useful. Great post. I spent some time discussing this issue with friends at the weekend and we struggled to get a handle on it. It seems to be something immaterial, but that isn't particularly useful when you have to make some concrete decisions based on it. I think there's two views you can take on Rangers with respect to the ongoing SFA discussions might inform a future definition. Namely: Companies are what matter. Rangers are dead. Sevco are therefore a new club (in which case they should be nowhere near a league). Sevco can somehow "become" Rangers, if they're willing to inherit the crimes, punishments and sanctions imposed on the previous club. There seems to be some kind of merit in the second approach, however the distinction being made between paying back all debt vs paying back footballing debt only doesn't sit well with me. Equally, the idea that the company is the club also has some merit, but also doesn't seem entirely satisfactory. Even with my own biases I'm not entirely convinced that Sevco and Rangers are one and the same thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 You know what's fucking brilliant at 37 minutes past midnight on Fairs Monday when you've got work tomorrow? Seagulls chasing each other down the street for a shag outside your window. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kong Bundy Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I see. I'm a 14-year-old keyboard warrior living in my attic, could this be a hindrance? You have reached the interview stage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Ahahaha the brains trust on FF wants to use the RFFF money to hire Donald Findlay QC and investigate Giovanni Di Stefano's claims about the missing millions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I'm a 14-year-old keyboard warrior living in my attic, could this be a hindrance? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Am I the only person here who still can't fully celebrate until the whistle blows on the first day of the season? Christ I must be really negative lol. Nope, I'm right there with you. If you don't admit the possibility of a good outcome, you're probably just an average Joe who's been smacked in the face by life once too often. It's where we all are at the moment. Once the season kicks off, it's all locked in - we've got half as much sectarian shite to deal with, and SFL3 gets to welcome a new team. GET THAT, ORCS? A new team. The Old Firm is dead. We really can look forward to a new era. And if Kille have to go part-time? We've been there before, but if we get a new Tommy McLean or Gordon Smith, he's not leaving for buttons. Forza Diddii! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 You know what's fucking brilliant at 37 minutes past midnight on Fairs Monday when you've got work tomorrow? Seagulls chasing each other down the street for a shag outside your window. Either that or it's social unrest set to break loose like something out of 'The Birds'... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of Jim Morton Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Day 154. 22 weeks. Are they dead yet? No, but very very very very close to it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Some ambition that boy @RonnieMacKay Ian Black says he would be willing to play for Rangers newco in the Third Division. In Tuesday's Scottish Sun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of Jim Morton Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I see. I'm a 14-year-old keyboard warrior living in my attic, could this be a hindrance? You could be a 3 year old pile of rotting putrid turd and you would still be a good two steps up from what we have at the moment 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Ahahaha the brains trust on FF wants to use the RFFF money to hire Donald Findlay QC and investigate Giovanni Di Stefano's claims about the missing millions. Donald would charge them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Have the SFL asked for the £3/4M pound bond, like they did with Livi, yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I just remembered aswell, the last friendly they had for charity Rangers (oldco) took something daft like only 10% of the money went to charity, the rest to Rangers (oldco) Aye, that's the kind of thing that that kind of person would remember. I'd have thought it would piss Milan off more than anyone else, but then I've never been the bully's best mate. FFS let it go. We concentrate on wrongdoing on here, no whataboutery. Enrico, you're letting yourself down, you're letting your club down....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Roth Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Alnic3856 Andy Goram Group:True Blue Topics:24 Posts:1,057 Rep:190 Joined:26-February 12 Gender:Male Location:England Posted Today, 09:57 PM Green doesn't have a choice it's ok saying the league needs us they won't let us die, in 3 years when we eventually get back into the SPL the damage will already have been done and teams would have started to recover all be it at a lower level, reality is they don't need us, they may be better off with us, but they don't need us if we don't accept this we will die and that is the sad fucking truth, doesn't matter how hurtful or wrong that is it's a fact. Green will accept and I don't know if I'll ever be able to forgive the c**t but whats the alternative folks? Is it worth the risk to find out? f**k knows my heids melted wi this pish. 0Say it very quietly but it seems like there's one person on zRM that actually realises there's a whole world beyond his bedroom covered in posters of Mrs Mols... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Some ambition that boy @RonnieMacKay Ian Black says he would be willing to play for Rangers newco in the Third Division. In Tuesday's Scottish Sun. Well we know Rangers are not going to be paying big money, the only reason I can think of him coming out with that statement is that no clubs are interested in him, or he really doesn't want to leave the central belt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I've found it strange why sites like that and Follow Follow are on the go, i'm sure Div has said he's been contacted in the past from the police about some of the stuff written on here, Have you asked Knacker to check out KDS or other celtic sites? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTaxMan Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Your chairman said on the 12th february, "we don't need rangers".He then shut the f**k up. Can you post a link to where Ian Bankier said that please? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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