P45 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Does anyone actually believe anything the guy comes out with? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodmoorhill Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 £40 Million? Not a chance. Anyone actually hoping to gain control of Newco are highly unlikely to try and do it via a share issue valued at this price. They are more likely to sit it out now and wait for the issue to fail. As Green and co. start bleeding money trying to prop the team up, desperation will set in and the price will drop off a cliff. It's obvious really. If Newco were worth £40 million, then a consortium would already have bid for it at something near that price. Newco fans may as well flush their money down the bog. Anything raised by this will be trousered immediately by Green and co. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarreZ Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I think Green forgets that Murray has tried share issues in the past and they have all failed miserably, this is in financially good times not the clusterfuck that we are in right now. Any share issue would be doomed to failure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Off topic but there is a new email site at outlook.com if anyone wants to snap up a username before anyone else gets it. eta you have to go through the whole thing before it tells you the name is already used. Tedious. Edited August 1, 2012 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLESGABOY Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Browsing Orc Media, it seems a few of them are beginning to realise that the SPL clubs aren't going to crash and burn like everyone had predicted, and they don't like it From a Dundee United point of view, the TV money is the same as what we've been on the last few years, and with the opportunity of now changing the distribution to a fairer model now available, that could go up. Season tickets are slightly up and still selling, and we're gonna see more Dundee fans visiting Tannadice than the Orcs have brought through in the last couple of years, I can confidently predict we're gonna be fine! Armegeddon? You're a joke Jim Traynor et al I`ve been watching this unravel since the start of February and I`ve passed a few comments on the manic utterings and diatribe thats been spouted across the forums. The usual responses lack any sort of coherent answer so I`m not holding out any hope this time either but I can`t help but get the feeling that all the armchair stockbrokers,IFA`s, accountants,bankers and lawyers are refusing to see the financial reality of what`s sitting in front of them. Stop spouting shite for 2 minutes and have a look at the actual net spend of each of the SPL clubs during this transfer window and compare against the last 5 years. I also posted previously that clubs would start to look for savings at youth level first which is always first under review and sure as fate at least 2 SPL clubs have started looking at cutting back on the amounts they spend on youth development etc with more to follow..... Can any of the clubs say with certainty or to paraphrase "confidently predict we`re gonna be fine!" Not without kids you`re not. Oh and save me the Orc sympathiser,Sevco apologist, Jim Traynor,etc,etc pish. I was fortunate enough to have made a living from the game, thats where my interest lies and its the same for most players even today. Their first loyalty is to earning a wage to support their families and they are not remotely interested in the bollocks that gets thrown around on internet forums or radio phone ins.... So anyone care to answer my original question as to what their clubs actual net spend is within this transfer window compared to the last 5 years??? Edited August 1, 2012 by GLESGABOY -11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymores Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I`ve been watching this unravel since the start of February and I`ve passed a few comments on the manic utterings and diatribe thats been spouted across the forums. The usual responses lack any sort of coherent answer so I`m not holding out any hope this time either but I can`t help but get the feeling that all the armchair stockbrokers,IFA`s, accountants,bankers and lawyers are refusing to see the financial reality of what`s sitting in front of them. Stop spouting shite for 2 minutes and have a look at the actual net spend of each of the SPL clubs during this transfer window and compare against the last 5 years. I also posted previously that clubs would start to look for savings at youth level first which is always first under review and sure as fate at least 2 SPL clubs have started looking at cutting back on the amounts they spend on youth development etc with more to follow..... Can any of the clubs say with certainty or to paraphrase "confidently predict we`re gonna be fine!" Not without kids you`re not. Oh and save me the Orc sympathiser,Sevco apologist, Jim Traynor,etc,etc pish. I was fortunate enough to have made a living from the game, thats where my interest lies and its the same for most players even today. Their first loyalty is to earning a wage to support their families and they are not remotely interested in the bollocks that gets thrown around on internet forums or radio phone ins.... So anyone care to answer my original question as to what their clubs actual net spend is within this transfer window compared to the last 5 years??? SevcoMedia for this pish -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Off topic but there is a new email site at outlook.com if anyone wants to snap up a username before anyone else gets it. eta you have to go through the whole thing before it tells you the name is already used. Tedious. That RM post could get an apt one now below.outlook.com 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I`ve been watching this unravel since the start of February and I`ve passed a few comments on the manic utterings and diatribe thats been spouted across the forums. The usual responses lack any sort of coherent answer so I`m not holding out any hope this time either but I can`t help but get the feeling that all the armchair stockbrokers,IFA`s, accountants,bankers and lawyers are refusing to see the financial reality of what`s sitting in front of them. Stop spouting shite for 2 minutes and have a look at the actual net spend of each of the SPL clubs during this transfer window and compare against the last 5 years. I also posted previously that clubs would start to look for savings at youth level first which is always first under review and sure as fate at least 2 SPL clubs have started looking at cutting back on the amounts they spend on youth development etc with more to follow..... Can any of the clubs say with certainty or to paraphrase "confidently predict we`re gonna be fine!" Not without kids you`re not. Oh and save me the Orc sympathiser,Sevco apologist, Jim Traynor,etc,etc pish. I was fortunate enough to have made a living from the game, thats where my interest lies and its the same for most players even today. Their first loyalty is to earning a wage to support their families and they are not remotely interested in the bollocks that gets thrown around on internet forums or radio phone ins.... So anyone care to answer my original question as to what their clubs actual net spend is within this transfer window compared to the last 5 years??? Jim, make up your mind, which one? Or is it both or are we all dooooooooomed! Cutback were coming if you were in or out. This was already said, what has happened is cutbacks are going to be quicker. IMO not a bad thing, living outwith your means in any game of life is not good, you may even go bust, imagine that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfulsaint Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 St Johnstone - Our net spend is on a par with last year and up on our time in First Division. But not sure what that is a measure of I'd prefer to see us reduce wages by 20% and on balance think that SPL clubs were spending way to much on squad wages - cut backs of 25% would be rational irrespective of SPL TV deals or who is in the league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymores Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Jim, make up your mind, which one? Or is it both or are we all dooooooooomed! Cutback were coming if you were in or out. This was already said, what has happened is cutbacks are going to be quicker. IMO not a bad thing, living outwith your means in any game of life is not good, you may even go bust, imagine that. I'm surprised you even bothered to answer him. Nobody EVER has pretended that there wouldn't difficult financial decisions and times to come............I don't think anyone ever said otherwise. At the same time everyone could see the utter folly of being content to live off the coat-tails of the gruesome twosome, especially when one of the arse cheeks itself went bust and liquidated! Jim above needs to wake-up and realise his time of junkets & succulent lamb are over. This is recession and hopefully all the Clubs still standing now start to live more realistically and not be blinkered/obsessed with Jim's "actual net spend within this transfer window compared to the past 5 years" Edited August 1, 2012 by Claymores 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribzanelli Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I`ve been watching this unravel since the start of February and I`ve passed a few comments on the manic utterings and diatribe thats been spouted across the forums. The usual responses lack any sort of coherent answer so I`m not holding out any hope this time either but I can`t help but get the feeling that all the armchair stockbrokers,IFA`s, accountants,bankers and lawyers are refusing to see the financial reality of what`s sitting in front of them. Stop spouting shite for 2 minutes and have a look at the actual net spend of each of the SPL clubs during this transfer window and compare against the last 5 years. I also posted previously that clubs would start to look for savings at youth level first which is always first under review and sure as fate at least 2 SPL clubs have started looking at cutting back on the amounts they spend on youth development etc with more to follow..... Can any of the clubs say with certainty or to paraphrase "confidently predict we`re gonna be fine!" Not without kids you`re not. Oh and save me the Orc sympathiser,Sevco apologist, Jim Traynor,etc,etc pish. I was fortunate enough to have made a living from the game, thats where my interest lies and its the same for most players even today. Their first loyalty is to earning a wage to support their families and they are not remotely interested in the bollocks that gets thrown around on internet forums or radio phone ins.... So anyone care to answer my original question as to what their clubs actual net spend is within this transfer window compared to the last 5 years??? ^^^^Orc sympathiser, Sevco apologist, Jim Traynor, etc etc forum for this pish^^^^ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pampered Adolescent Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) I`ve been watching this unravel since the start of February and I`ve passed a few comments on the manic utterings and diatribe thats been spouted across the forums. The usual responses lack any sort of coherent answer so I`m not holding out any hope this time either but I can`t help but get the feeling that all the armchair stockbrokers,IFA`s, accountants,bankers and lawyers are refusing to see the financial reality of what`s sitting in front of them. Stop spouting shite for 2 minutes and have a look at the actual net spend of each of the SPL clubs during this transfer window and compare against the last 5 years. I also posted previously that clubs would start to look for savings at youth level first which is always first under review and sure as fate at least 2 SPL clubs have started looking at cutting back on the amounts they spend on youth development etc with more to follow..... Can any of the clubs say with certainty or to paraphrase "confidently predict we`re gonna be fine!" Not without kids you`re not. Oh and save me the Orc sympathiser,Sevco apologist, Jim Traynor,etc,etc pish. I was fortunate enough to have made a living from the game, thats where my interest lies and its the same for most players even today. Their first loyalty is to earning a wage to support their families and they are not remotely interested in the bollocks that gets thrown around on internet forums or radio phone ins.... So anyone care to answer my original question as to what their clubs actual net spend is within this transfer window compared to the last 5 years??? Excuse me sir, is the figure actually relevant? When I lived in the UK, I am sure that sometimes the General Election was lost by the political party that had the most funding. How bizarre was this? In my opinion, a more adult view of your paraphrasing: "we're gonna be fine" would be "we're going to attempt to live within our means". You seem to infer that this is necessarily a bad thing. I don't agree. Maybe you've just been dipping in and out of this forum since February and not picked up any of the underlying themes; maybe you are Andy Cameron-esque in your views today, I don't know. For me, one of the underlying themes has been the "diddy team revival" and a unity amongst fans. e.g. "We are Turnbull Hutton" and Ross County's superb gesture to 'Well fans this Saturday. Money, may be important, but it's not the be all and end all. Tore Andre Flo cost Rangers over twice the value of the club as of 2012, and we've had no deflationary years in the interim period. Just my RMB 2. PA Edited August 1, 2012 by Pampered Adolescent 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19071813 Apologies if noted earlier, but while Beattie signing seems up-in-the-air, McCoist expects Bocanegra and Goian to stay. Both are flabergasting, but Bocanegra in particular... he has over 100 USA caps and has still been playing regularly for his country up until now. What on earth would attract him to playing in Scotland's 4th tier (followed by ~2 more years in the lower levels)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) I`ve been watching this unravel since... So anyone care to answer my original question as to what their clubs actual net spend is within this transfer window compared to the last 5 years??? I've been watching Scottish football unravel for a decade plus. My club have barely spent a farthing for years, pretty typical of most SPL clubs apart from two. What's your actual point? Edited August 1, 2012 by Fife Saint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTaxMan Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Think it was probably Denise Welch. She wid dae. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLEITH Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/club/rangers-fc/ err............Are they a new club or not? Looks like they are getting away with their debt but keeping their history! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Diamond Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I`ve been watching this unravel since the start of February and I`ve passed a few comments on the manic utterings and diatribe thats been spouted across the forums. The usual responses lack any sort of coherent answer so I`m not holding out any hope this time either but I can`t help but get the feeling that all the armchair stockbrokers,IFA`s, accountants,bankers and lawyers are refusing to see the financial reality of what`s sitting in front of them. Stop spouting shite for 2 minutes and have a look at the actual net spend of each of the SPL clubs during this transfer window and compare against the last 5 years. I also posted previously that clubs would start to look for savings at youth level first which is always first under review and sure as fate at least 2 SPL clubs have started looking at cutting back on the amounts they spend on youth development etc with more to follow..... Can any of the clubs say with certainty or to paraphrase "confidently predict we`re gonna be fine!" Not without kids you`re not. Oh and save me the Orc sympathiser,Sevco apologist, Jim Traynor,etc,etc pish. I was fortunate enough to have made a living from the game, thats where my interest lies and its the same for most players even today. Their first loyalty is to earning a wage to support their families and they are not remotely interested in the bollocks that gets thrown around on internet forums or radio phone ins.... So anyone care to answer my original question as to what their clubs actual net spend is within this transfer window compared to the last 5 years??? Thank feck the schools start back soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19071813 Apologies if noted earlier, but while Beattie signing seems up-in-the-air, McCoist expects Bocanegra and Goian to stay. Both are flabergasting, but Bocanegra in particular... he has over 100 USA caps and has still been playing regularly for his country up until now. What on earth would attract him to playing in Scotland's 4th tier (followed by ~2 more years in the lower levels)? A side contract and offshore payments through an EBT perhaps? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribzanelli Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 For me, one of the underlying themes has been the "diddy team revival" and a unity amongst fans. e.g. "We are Turnbull Hutton" and Ross County's superb gesture to 'Well fans this Saturday. PA Its about time the diddies reclaimed WATP from the Orcs, if anything has been learned from the diddy fan uprising it is that we, and not them, truly are the people 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pampered Adolescent Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Its about time the diddies reclaimed WATP from the Orcs, if anything has been learned from the diddy fan uprising it is that we, and not them, truly are the people Indeed- how about one better- WANP; We Are Normal People? PA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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