HibeeJibee Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Though its clear that plenty people disagree with it, there's a logic to the commission finding them guilty but not applying a sporting sanction... akin to the Hassan Kackloul affair, for example. What confuses me more is that the fine for rules breach is only £250k, and only for OldCo... the latter particularly, as such a distinction between club and company in this way is new, and particularly odd when regarding responsibility for registering players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I'm trying really really hard here but I canny muster a seething. Am I a plastic plastic? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 "If you’re a banker in a small country and you criminally destroy the entire national economy out of personal and corporate greed, you go to jail. If you’re a banker in a large country and you criminally destroy the entire national economy out of personal and corporate greed, a laughably small fine is imposed and you get to keep everything your fraudulent actions helped you line your pockets with. If you’re a small Scottish football club and you field an improperly-registered player once, by accident, you forfeit the match and are disqualified from the tournament. If you’re a large Scottish football club and you field numerous improperly-registered players, repeatedly and deliberately, to gain an unfair advantage, a laughably small fine (which will never be paid) is imposed on a completely different and bankrupt company, and you get to keep everything the unregistered players in question helped you win." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
As We Rise Again Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I'm trying really really hard here but I canny muster a seething. Am I a plastic plastic? No just a liar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I'm trying really really hard here but I canny muster a seething. Am I a plastic plastic? You're not a true plastic though. After all you'll be pouring the drinks tonight for your Rangers supporting wife wife and father-in-law. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 No just a liar. Not being able to smoke inside the pub riles me more tbh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 You're not a true plastic though. After all you'll be pouring the drinks tonight for your Rangers supporting wife wife and father-in-law. I told you not to publicise my 2 wives ffs! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
As We Rise Again Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 They're trying to stop me smoking in my own car now too apparently. ^^^ Seething 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I told you not to publicise my 2 wives ffs! Never spotted that. Not a Mormon by any chance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amjam Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 You know that episode of The Office when they had the pub quiz, and Finch's team lost, but he decided if he could throw Tim's shoe over the pub then his team would win? In this thread the sevco fans are Finch. Sevco are still in the 3rd Division. And now for apparently no reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Never spotted that. Not a Mormon by any chance. No. Remove the m in the middle. That's me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 As an side.. does this set a precedent that if, say, a small SFL or non-league club moves from being run by committee or unincorporated association to a limited company - and an offence is uncovered from before that happened - any fine only affect the old body? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Capsule Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 This may already have been answered but isnt the fine to the oldco a bit redundant since it is soon to be liquidated? Or does the newco pay this fine as part of the "settle all football debts" agreement? Also, since The Rangers have a decision that they seem happy with does that mean that they want to join the SPL again despite Green's ramblings about never playing in the SPL under his regime? I think I'll give answering this a shot whilst everyone bickers away. I don't know what will happen, but it will be interesting. If OldCo owe £250,000 on top of the however many millions are owed, I reckon Gren will claim those are old debts, which he doesn't own. Rangers have been relaunched as a new company (no matter how many times their fans will deny it) and this means that they have no history, no debts and no £250,000 fine to pay for using an EBT payment scheme. Their fans want it both, but they can't have it that way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 No. Remove the m in the middle. That's me Didn't want to say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_titles_and_still_going_ Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 You know that episode of The Office when they had the pub quiz, and Finch's team lost, but he decided if he could throw Tim's shoe over the pub then his team would win? In this thread the sevco fans are Finch. Sevco are still in the 3rd Division. And now for apparently no reason. Who knows, we might be seeing you here next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelegendthatis Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Nimmo the Dimmo has previous. Nimmo Smith is the 'safe pair of hands' you need when you know you are in the sh*t and you need a bit of long winded whitewash. Classic one is http://www.scotsman.com/news/fettesgate-magic-circle-spells-panic-in-the-police-1-1193291 He also held the enquiry into North Lanarkshire Council where in his view "there were no case to answer". This was a Council led by Harry McGuigan who was described by the Scotsman at the time as the 'lowest form of political pond life'. In all cases the evidence hit him between the eyes but he still couldn't see it. The man who steps over the dead bodies before declaring nothing here of interest. From the minute he was appointed it was clear why, and it was also clear what answer he would come up with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstar Archie Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Where are the SPL`s accounts? How much has this farce cost them and who is paying the bill? It was the independent commissions decision, not the SPL`s The fact it is an idependent commission didnt seem to stop Rangers fans complaining about the SPL trying to strip them of titles. Yes there may be a large bill to go through this process, but isnt it better for everyone that it happened? At least now there is some sort of answer over the whole EBT dual contract thing and we can all move on. Is that not worth however much it will cost instead of the petty tit for tat arguing that has been going on for over a year? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I think I'll give answering this a shot whilst everyone bickers away. I don't know what will happen, but it will be interesting. If OldCo owe £250,000 on top of the however many millions are owed, I reckon Gren will claim those are old debts, which he doesn't own. Rangers have been relaunched as a new company (no matter how many times their fans will deny it) and this means that they have no history, no debts and no £250,000 fine to pay for using an EBT payment scheme. Their fans want it both, but they can't have it that way. No one has ever disputed there is a new company,the whole argument has always been about club continuity and recognition of that continuity by football authorities and going by the summation of the SPL Commission the club continuity is recognised as the same club from 1872. As for the fine,personally speaking i'd accept that being looked upon as a football debt to be paid by the club,no problem whatsoever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) as I posted this morning...... Fingers crossed for a credible guilty verdict and appropriate title stripping punishments. Anticipating a fudged 'sort of guilty with slap on wrist naughty step' verdict and a 'please can we all move along now' message. This will be interpreted up by all Rangers / Sevco as We Wur Innocent. GIRFUY, WATP etc etc. No real Sporting Integrity in watching a club rack up titles by having a squad which was way beyong their financial means if they had properly registered and remunerated them as per the rules that everyone else adhered to. I paid a lot of money over the seasons to watch a rigged competition, and - to quote someone else earlier in the thread - That's The Bottom Line! . . 'administrative errors' my arse. 'Seething' and rightly so. What a fucking stitch-up. Fitba's deid. Edited February 28, 2013 by Ken Fitlike 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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