Monkey Tennis Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 So why shouldn't Rangers (RIP) be stripped of trophies and titles? They just shouldn't, alright. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Haven't teams retrospectively been kicked out the Scottish Cup for administration mistakes despite "winning it on the park" I suppose the difference is that that would be in the same season. But if "retrospective punishments" mean "You can't void the result after the competition has finished", how do we ever deal with cheats? That's the thing about cheating - it's designed so that people don't detect it at the time. I mean, are all those cheating Russian athletes safe with their medals, just because they did their cheating years ago? None of these defences ring true, not one. Edited November 9, 2015 by flyingrodent 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Would you apply the same calculation to every club that has used EBT's ?? Arsenal were able to cough up when HMRC came chapping on the door, should they be stripped of the title the invincible side won for example? This isn't about fairness and parity it's nothing more than a frenzied witch hunt. Genuine question Robert, for I do not know the answer to it: Did Arsenal deliberately register their players with false contractual information? That's what title stripping is about old chum. Rangers - as with all clubs - were required to register their players by disclosing details of their contracts. Rangers gave false information on this to conceal the fact that they were operating a scheme they knew to be borderline illegal. Did Arsenal do similar? If so, I'll join you Rob in the campaign to see Henry, Vierra and co, hand those medals back. Edited November 9, 2015 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The Arsenal point is moot. The paid/settled the tax bill with HMRC, therefore didn't illegally withhold the tax. As has been said ad-nauseum, its not the EBTs, it's the way they are used and the tax due which is the issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Genuine question Robert, for I do not know the answer to it: Did Arsenal deliberately register their players with false contractual information? That's what title stripping is about old chum. Ranger - as with all clubs - were required to register their players by disclosing details of their contracts. Rangers gave false information on this to conceal the fact that they were operating a scheme they knew to be borderline illegal. Did Arsenal do similar? If so, I'll join you Rob in the campaign to see Henry, Vierra and co, hand those medals back. That is just lies. Rangers did not conceal them - they were listed in the accounts and everything... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) That Rangers statement is just thrillingly shite. When I read it on here, I could scarcely believe it. In fact I didn't fully until I saw it on Reporting Scotland there. A plea that we move on. An appeal based on the greater good of Scottish football. Seriously, f**k right off. It's like Kissinger winning the Nobel prize for peace - that statement renders satire redundant. It's like Peter Sutcliffe suggesting to the judge that he should move on for the sake of women. Again, there is no actual defence offered - absolutely none at all, just a request, or command that justice be ignored because they'd like it to be. Truly staggering. Edited November 9, 2015 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) The Arsenal point is moot. The paid/settled the tax bill with HMRC, therefore didn't illegally withhold the tax. As has been said ad-nauseum, its not the EBTs, it's the way they are used and the tax due which is the issue. It's also registration of players that is the issue.It has seen the results of cup ties overturned on occasion, even when any inaccuracy was accepted to have been entirely accidental and not in pursuit of advantage. Edited November 9, 2015 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyc13 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 That Rangers statement is just thrillingly shite. When I read it on here, I could scarcely believe it. In fact I didn't fully until I saw it on Reporting Scotland there. A plea that we move on. An appeal based on the greater good of Scottish football. Seriously, f**k right off. It's like Kissinger winning the Nobel prize for peace - that statement renders satire redundant. It's like Peter Sutcliffe suggesting to the judge that he should move on for the sake of women. Again, there is no actual defence offered - absolutely none at all, just a request, or command that justice be ignored because they'd like it to be. Truly staggering. Im surprised you seem surprised.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 That Rangers statement is just thrillingly shite. When I read it on here, I could scarcely believe it. In fact I didn't fully until I saw it on Reporting Scotland there. A plea that we move on. An appeal based on the greater good of Scottish football. Seriously, f**k right off. It's like Kissinger winning the Nobel prize for peace - that statement renders satire redundant. It's like Peter Sutcliffe suggesting to the judge that he should move on for the sake of women. Again, there is no actual defence offered - absolutely none at all, just a request, or command that justice be ignored because they'd like it to be. Truly staggering. 'How dare you question us? Don't you know who we are? We are the same club really, f**k you all, we don't want our titles stripped Let's move on for all of your sake, as you are all burning in hell without us' See I can write Rangers statements too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Im surprised you seem surprised.. I genuinely am. Despite everything that's preceded it and desensitised us, I find that statement incredible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 'How dare you question us? Don't you know who we are? We are the same club really, f**k you all, we don't want our titles stripped Let's move on for all of your sake, as you are all burning in hell without us' See I can write Rangers statements too Nope, too considered and dignified to be authentic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyc13 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I genuinely am. Despite everything that's preceded it and desensitised us, I find that statement incredible. Nothing surprises me when it comes to their club/company statements, I'm a little surprised it didn't contain a thinly veiled threat of violence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Haven't teams retrospectively been kicked out the Scottish Cup Champions League for administration mistakes despite "winning it on the park" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Haven't teams retrospectively been kicked out the Scottish Cup Champions League for administration mistakes despite "winning it on the park" Don't forget Europa League also 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythstoliveby Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 And yet over on rangersmedia they're all saying that it's a *fantastic* statement. - which should really set the alarm bells ringing back at ibrox! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 My favourite from Rangers Media "A good statement, which portrays us as "being the bigger man."" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 That Rangers statement is just thrillingly shite. When I read it on here, I could scarcely believe it. In fact I didn't fully until I saw it on Reporting Scotland there. A plea that we move on. An appeal based on the greater good of Scottish football. Seriously, f**k right off. It's like Kissinger winning the Nobel prize for peace - that statement renders satire redundant. It's like Peter Sutcliffe suggesting to the judge that he should move on for the sake of women. Again, there is no actual defence offered - absolutely none at all, just a request, or command that justice be ignored because they'd like it to be. Truly staggering. It's like it's written by someone on here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Britney getting destroyed on the radio lol, did you hear how frantic he got when his comments were rebuffed? Why does Britney always get wheeled out when a negative slant on Rangers is needed, all he does is repeat what his Celtic pals say on twitter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Britney getting destroyed on the radio lol, did you hear how frantic he got when his comments were rebuffed? Why does Britney always get wheeled out when a negative slant on Rangers is needed, all he does is repeat what his Celtic pals say on twitter. Does it annoy you, that there's a Rangers fan with a public voice. Who doesn't toe the party line? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Britney used to wear his Rangers colours in the Celtic end at old firm games and when he cheered his teams goals the Celtic fans all congratulated him. God bless honest Britney. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.