K Dodd Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 K Dodd and tax :-D Aye. I pay mine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 MA absolutely putting the boot in to the orcs here. What a guy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crossbill Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 THE KING, on 11 Nov 2015 - 10:44, said: Tax justice crusader on why HMRC are right... . . - See more at: http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2015/11/08/rangers-ebt-why-the-court-of-session-got-it-right/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+org%2FlWWh+%28Tax+Research+UK+2%29#.dpuf It's great to see the justice system take a common sense approach to this, rather than pander to the weasely conniving of accountants threading their way through loopholes. All tax cheats should be treated with the same disdain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 EBT's are neither illegal nor criminal. Rangers' use of EBT's to evade tax is both illegal and criminal. It wasn't Rangers who avoided paying tax. It was the employees. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikedafc Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) Having lost a 1st tier tax tribunal and then the decision being confirmed in an appeal to a 2nd tier tax tribunal it baffles me how HMRC won this time Edited November 11, 2015 by mikedafc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossbill Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 printer, on 11 Nov 2015 - 11:06, said:It wasn't Rangers who avoided paying tax. It was the employees. No, it is the employers responsibility to remove income tax at source. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyWellFan Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 So just so I have it straight: Found to be cheating on a grand scale. In need of 2.5 million to see out the rest of the season. Shyster owners credibility being rightfully questioned. Have I missed anything? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 So just so I have it straight: Found to be cheating on a grand scale. In need of 2.5 million to see out the rest of the season. Shyster owners credibility being rightfully questioned. Have I missed anything? The Green / Whyte / Duff'n'Phelps fraud trial Hibs getting stronger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 So just so I have it straight: Found to be cheating on a grand scale. In need of 2.5 million to see out the rest of the season. Shyster owners credibility being rightfully questioned. Have I missed anything? Charlie taking them to court to pay for legal expenses 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) It wasn't Rangers who avoided paying tax. It was the employees. So rangers were accessories before the fact - still illegal. Otherwise, we'd be banging up drug users and letting the dealers go free. ETA: A long way from the best analogy, but I've had a stressful "arguing with management buffoons" type of a morning. Mind you, the Horde are hurting . Edited November 11, 2015 by WhiteRoseKillie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyman Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Charlie taking them to court to pay for legal expenses They can look on the bright side. Wur Warbs has said he won't hesitate to spend £1m on a player in January. All fine on the good ship the ranjurs as it sails into the iceberg of calamity!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Dodd Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 So just so I have it straight: Found to be cheating on a grand scale. In need of 2.5 million to see out the rest of the season. Shyster owners credibility being rightfully questioned. Have I missed anything? . Read back 198,819 posts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) No, it is the employers responsibility to remove income tax at source.Indeed, and I maybe didn't word my post well enough, I was trying to clarify/point out that the tax due was actually that of the employees.Rangers didn't actually evade tax, they put in place a scheme which enabled their employees to evade paying it on their remuneration. Edited November 11, 2015 by printer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 They can look on the bright side. Wur Warbs has said he won't hesitate to spend £1m on a player in January. All fine on the good ship the ranjurs as it sails into the iceberg of calamity!!! Can't blame him, King has given him and the clumpany to overspend 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Indeed, and I maybe didn't word my post well enough, I was trying to clarify/point out that the tax due was actually that of the employees. Rangers didn't actually evade tax, they put in place a scheme which enabled their employees to evade paying it on their remuneration. The company did evade tax. They did not pay employers NI. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossbill Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 printer, on 11 Nov 2015 - 11:54, said: Indeed, and I maybe didn't word my post well enough, I was trying to clarify/point out that the tax due was actually that of the employees. Rangers didn't actually evade tax, they put in place a scheme which enabled their employees to evade paying it on their remuneration. Again, No. Both the employees and employer gained financial advantage from the illegal non-payment of income tax and national insurance contributions, but it is the employer that is culpable. From the court ruling: 'an employer who makes a payment of earnings or emoluments to or on account of an employee is obliged to deduct tax in accordance with the PAYE Regulations.' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulliamwallace Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 They people who have been cheated here are the fans, the fans of all the teams who payed their hard earned cash year after year to go and watch their beloved club while the cheats bought some of the best players in Britain.Oldco should have the tainted titles stripped and removed from the records, they cheated full stop, newco should be expelled from the game for bringing it in to disrepute and playing while insolvent and the SFA should resign, the fkn lot of them as they are just as corrupt, Ogilvie, Reagan and Doncaster should walk right now.Our game needs an overhaul starting from the top.Lets do it without the fkn cheats " for the good of Scottish football" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Hardly a surprised from Ashley here. He has business interests to protect, if it was you, would you like to have a convicted tax fraud anywhere near it? Of course not. But, bbb, b but - He's a pyoor Rainjurs man anawrat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 It seems to me that the new incarnation of The Rangers would be better off with a man like Ashley in charge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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