Granny Danger Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Seriously, given the total lack of financial stability and King's determination to have a showdown that he can never win with Ashley, I am astounded that there are Rangers fans who still think title stripping is of any importance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 What? Thats only the 2nd statement Celtic have ever released on the subject, and thats just telling people their views haven't changed. If only other clubs would come out publicly I sort of agree with the sentiment about others piping up. I'm not convinced many are that fussy either way though. I also agree with Dons that this will now be billed as an OF struggle, as if that's all that could possibly matter. Celtic would do better to accompany such a statement with a pledge that they would wish to exert no claim on any titles removed. Otherwise, it's very easy to characterise their stance as opportunistic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I don't think there is any question that the whole EBT thing was put in place to gain an advantage on the pitch. That was fundamentally the reason for the scheme - we can get better players for the same cost if we pay them through EBTs. It's difficult to see how the SPFL (or whoever the appropriate body is) can avoid now coming to that conclusion. I'm not sure what that means, or should mean, for titles/trophies won. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyWellFan Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 That idiot 'Motherwell' fan has been spying on Rangers media again. Keep on fighting the good fight mate. Keep your chin up mate. I know it can't be easy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) The rage of King is great, he's all over the shop. Front page stuff.. Lol @ Huston pic..."Permanently raging since 1690" haha Edited November 13, 2015 by THE KING 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Good old sporting integrity, everyone's favourite buzzwords and the green n grey yins will lap this up. Let the scheming and plotting commence. The phrase "sporting integrity" is so easily dismissed, especially when coming from Celtic. The notion itself is entirely valid though. It's what this comes down to. If Rangers are allowed to keep titles from the era, the integrity of the sport has quite simply been compromised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Beautiful stuff from Celtic here, just lobbing a wee hand grenade into the mix, Rangers fans absolutely foaming at the mouth with rage, how long before a counter statement from the convicted criminal and his racist ex director? Meltdown on social media and forums from the Klan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 It was one of those jokes that I was telling you about Norm. Sorry n all that. Maybe if you could post one or two that was, eh, relevant, or even possibly funny - it might make it easier for us. (I'll be printing out that apology and framing the fucker - rocking horse sht and all that) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 All clubs should follow Celtic and release a , f**k you statement to Armstrong FC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I don't think there is any question that the whole EBT thing was put in place to gain an advantage on the pitch. That was fundamentally the reason for the scheme - we can get better players for the same cost if we pay them through EBTs. It's difficult to see how the SPFL (or whoever the appropriate body is) can avoid now coming to that conclusion. I'm not sure what that means, or should mean, for titles/trophies won. I suspect it means little. Other clubs have fielded better players than they otherwise could have, by failing to meet other financial obligations. What interests me is how the judgement was reached that the non-disclosure of side letters when registering players, did not render the players ineligible. I'm also interested in how we had a situation whereby no retrospective title stripping could take place, yet a fine for the relevant actions could be imposed retrospectively. These are the the decisions that were telling at the time and that the latest big tax case finding doesn't really alter. If last week's ruling shines more light on these decisions though, that could maybe make a difference. There's no doubt whatever though, that nothing can be said to suggest that Rangers "deserve" these titles. They have them on a technicality. All that remains to be seen is how flimsy or otherwise that technicality is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 The phrase "sporting integrity" is so easily dismissed, especially when coming from Celtic. The notion itself is entirely valid though. It's what this comes down to. If Rangers are allowed to keep titles from the era, the integrity of the sport has quite simply been compromised. There are no grounds for title stripping, tho I'm sure that some can be rustled up courtesy of integrity FCs fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythstoliveby Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 There are no grounds for title stripping, tho I'm sure that some can be rustled up courtesy of integrity FCs fans. And whatsmore Dave King is a fit and proper person 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Many months ago in this thread I commented on the authenticity of Dave King's funds, noting that a Real Rangers Man with his supposed wealth could have taken over Rangers at any point in the preceding four years saving them from any number of embarrassments/deaths therein, and that even at that point his delay in even taking over perhaps suggested his wealth didn't exist, or at least he was reluctant to invest anything meaningful. Bereft of warchest, if you will. Benny here told me I was being silly. Now, where are we many months later? Oh yes, it's all going swimmingly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the 67 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Super score board is quality tonight......sevco punters not happy at Celtic statement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Super score board is quality tonight......sevco punters not happy at Celtic statement. DJ , it's no cheating cos they bought some shite players as well! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Super score board is quality tonight......Cmon now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Aberdeen FC Statement: Nice one Simmie, nice one son. Nice one Simmie, let's have another one. Stand Free 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the 67 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) Cmon now. OK fair point.....it is still shit.....but has made me chuckle tonight. Edited November 13, 2015 by the 67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) There are no grounds for title stripping, tho I'm sure that some can be rustled up courtesy of integrity FCs fans. Rangers deliberately provided false information to the SFA when registering their players, by failing to disclose the side letters. This meant that the registration was not handled properly. It casts doubt on the registration of these players, an area traditionally treated very seriously by football's authorities. Grounds for a close look exist. The argument will run however that such an examination has taken place already. What undermines that examination however is the fact that its result was apparently, at least in part, reliant on a decision since overturned. It's also been undermined by the palpably ludicrous claim that accompanied it about "no sporting advantage". That again, has been firmly challenged and discredited in the last week or so. Edited November 13, 2015 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the 67 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 DJ , it's no cheating cos they bought some shite players as well! Aye ...getting in some state over tainted titles lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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