HibeeJibee Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I don't think i've heard any news about sky or sponsors pulling out as yet. Scaremongering and knicker wetting at it's finest! All we've heard is ESPN's commitment to STAYING. Gilmour's statement is shocking and lifts the (very thin) veneer off the discussions that were going on in some circles. One thing is certain, any chairman who followed any strategy that Doncaster was instrumental in devising must be off their fucking head. It's ironic that all fans and many clubs in SFL must think he's a t*t for trying, and some people in SPL must think he's a t*t for failing!! Dundee Utd and Aberdeen reiterate NO TO NEWCO. St Mirren and ICT: SELLOUTS. And Hearts, tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I'm scunnered with our chairman's comments, but let's get it into perspective, we once had a chairman who sacked Alex Ferguson. Life's a bitch. Ferguson is pish!! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachbum Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I think you'll find you are talking bollocks matey. There were three votes taken and vote one was " To accept Sevco5088 (Scotland) as a member of the SFL. Here's the exact wording of it and a link so you can go look yourself .. Part (i) That the Scottish Football League Members agree to admit Sevco Scotland Limited as an Associate Member and agrees to permit Rangers F.C. to play in the League during Season 2012/13. A simple majority of votes cast in secret ballot is needed to approve this motion. If granted, then Sevco Scotland Ltd becomes a member of the SFL and must, within 14 days, apply for membership of the SFA. It is understood that that application has already been made. http://scotslawthoug...bers-voting-on/ Hope this helps .. It has still to be rubber stamped by the SFA, after Dundee or Dunfermline are removed to the SPL. So, technically, Newco are not in the SFL until some time on Monday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooper Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 We should all just boycock each other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBairn Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 It has still to be rubber stamped by the SFA, after Dundee or Dunfermline are removed to the SPL. So, technically, Newco are not in the SFL until some time on Monday. Well they better get a move on. I'm not wanting my season's start (Ramsdens) ruined by this. 28th July KO remember. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 This could be said about Killie then, they built an Hotel when money was plentyful and everthing in the garden was rosy due to the Sky money at the time. The Hotel was the brainchild of Bill Costley and if the Sky deal hadn't gone tits up then it would probably have been a big success. Instead we've suffered ever since with huge interest payments and been the subject of bile by other fans (mainly St Mirren BTW) Whilst it has some similarities I don't think it is that similar to be honest. Killie's situation was a big spend on something non-essential to the running of the football club which when things turned it was not a good idea. I think it is fair to say the club would be in a healthier position without the hotel? The situation we and others including Killie are finding ourselves in now, is that our income from the core business is potentially going to be slashed quicker than we can slash player and employee costs. Nobody has spent big on anything in this instance. There is only one club to blame for this situation and that is Rangers and a few people who can be blamed. Largely the SPL clubs are not at fault and neither are the SFL clubs something our chairman should remember. I have to say, if you offered our chairman the chance to be relegated down to SFL 1 tomorrow, I suspect he might take you up on that offer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 It has still to be rubber stamped by the SFA, after Dundee or Dunfermline are removed to the SPL. So, technically, Newco are not in the SFL until some time on Monday. Aren't they a member for up to 14 days even without SFA membership? Anyway, that should be a formality. Regan said it was a formality if they got accepted into SFL1 = it should be no different for SFL3. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I think you'll find you are talking bollocks matey. There were three votes taken and vote one was " To accept Sevco5088 (Scotland) as a member of the SFL. Here's the exact wording of it and a link so you can go look yourself .. Part (i) That the Scottish Football League Members agree to admit Sevco Scotland Limited as an Associate Member and agrees to permit Rangers F.C. to play in the League during Season 2012/13. A simple majority of votes cast in secret ballot is needed to approve this motion. If granted, then Sevco Scotland Ltd becomes a member of the SFL and must, within 14 days, apply for membership of the SFA. It is understood that that application has already been made. http://scotslawthoug...bers-voting-on/ Hope this helps .. OK I read it and it's still as I said ! the newco has been accepted but at this moment in time is still a club without any membership and have up to 14 days to submit a request for a membership permit. At this moment in time the newco is not an associate member of the SFL at all. Monday's SPL meeting surely must have the real Rangers relinquishing their membership license to the newco and a decision on whether Dundee or Dunfermline get the club12 vacancy.Then Green will submit an application for a permit to play in the 3rd with the oldco's SFA membership license.Green needs the oldco's membership license before applying to play in the SFL 3rd division. As I explained there is still the possibility on Monday that the SPL clubs will take it to a vote who to invite into the SPL and do not be surprised because the SFL clubs voted the newco into the 3rd division and not the 1st division that they will consider Green's newco as well.The 3rd division is a death nail to the newco with their running costs and the fear factor of lost revenue may sway the SPL clubs to vote on the newco again. Just keep an open mind instead of blind celebration that the newco appears to be playing 3rd division football this coming season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBairn Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) Why aren't the likes of Spartans and Gala not quickly preparing their applications and taking advantage of this perceived break in Sevco's journey. If I was Chairman of either of those Clubs I'd be hammering on the SFL doors first thing on Monday morning. The chances of one of them being accepted over Sevco is quite high given they have sound financial history and don't have any poisonous baggage to carry with them. Sevco are in no fit state to participate in ANY football league to be honest as they still need to carry retrospective penalties and the rest. Just exclude Sevco from the football family and let someone else in. So come on Spartans and Gala, get your fingers oot and fill out those forms! Edited July 14, 2012 by GunnerBairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueone Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Aren't St Mirren fans in the middle of purchasing a controlling interest in the club? If things are as bad as Gilmour says then surely it's time to renegotiate on the purchase price. 52p seems a reasonable price. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeHectorPar Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Just listening to the Sportsound podcast. About 24 mins in, Chick talks about the silence being deafening. Would this be the "Silence of the Succulent Lambs"? Great listen! At long last sense is being discussed. As for who goes up it would be better if Dundee go up as this will give derbies against DU and SJ while Dunfermline in D1 will give us Pars against Blue Brazil and Raith. Best for everyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Hearts reiterated their thoughts on the radio earlier too. Who was speaking for us and what did they say? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I'm taking this with about eight barrels of salt, but for what it's worth.... GIOVANNI DI STEFANO @DEVILSADVOKATNearly there with being a shareholder in The rangers Football Club PLC hopefully this evening all complete 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Just listening to the Sportsound podcast. About 24 mins in, Chick talks about the silence being deafening. Would this be the "Silence of the Succulent Lambs"? Great listen! At long last sense is being discussed. As for who goes up it would be better if Dundee go up as this will give derbies against DU and SJ while Dunfermline in D1 will give us Pars against Blue Brazil and Raith. Best for everyone. Gies a link Hector will ya 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie guevara Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Thistle said GTF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Never thought I would ever agree with the great unwashed cousins from Greenock, but you are spot on. SG has made a real t*t of himself. If Saints were relegated does that mean the club would be liquidated? Don't think so! It's really not a good analogy to use which is what I'm trying to say. The difference is simple, relegation clauses in contracts allow us to release the players and start anew with a team of kids if need be. The players under contract don't have releases for the commercial revenue going.It's just unfortunate for us. At least we're still against Rangers in SPL2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBairn Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I'm taking this with about eight barrels of salt, but for what it's worth.... GIOVANNI DI STEFANO @DEVILSADVOKAT Nearly there with being a shareholder in The rangers Football Club PLC hopefully this evening all complete It may not be as strange as you may think. Remember the clamour for Charles Green to announce his consortium members once the CVA was agreed, then it went all quiet? It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this rumour was true. Makes Sevco a bigger joke than they already are if that's possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Thistle said GTF Hmm. Curiouser and curiouser. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachbum Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 OK I read it and it's still as I said ! the newco has been accepted but at this moment in time is still a club without any membership and have up to 14 days to submit a request for a membership permit. At this moment in time the newco is not an associate member of the SFL at all. Monday's SPL meeting surely must have the real Rangers relinquishing their membership license to the newco and a decision on whether Dundee or Dunfermline get the club12 vacancy.Then Green will submit an application for a permit to play in the 3rd with the oldco's SFA membership license.Green needs the oldco's membership license before applying to play in the SFL 3rd division. As I explained there is still the possibility on Monday that the SPL clubs will take it to a vote who to invite into the SPL and do not be surprised because the SFL clubs voted the newco into the 3rd division and not the 1st division that they will consider Green's newco as well.The 3rd division is a death nail to the newco with their running costs and the fear factor of lost revenue may sway the SPL clubs to vote on the newco again. Just keep an open mind instead of blind celebration that the newco appears to be playing 3rd division football this coming season. What is a death nail? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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