No8. Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Usual baffling logic from Traynor!! It doesn't matter if cheating might've went on, just leave it... 'cos the authorities should've detected it before now (the "few lines in the accounts" nonsense); it's not as important as creditors being shafted; and it'll accrue legal costs. That's the defence. EBTs? Potential 2nd contracts? Nothing to see here. Move along. He should send it to HMRC. That is not what he is saying though is it. He is asking questions that will hopefully be answered when the findings of the panel are announced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurcher Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Traynor`s latest grounded article the bit in red shows he has P&B 100% right, wonder wot his pal Cosgrove thinks, since he reads and posts on these forums, cmon cossie let us know http://www.dailyreco...r-years-1327563 Charlie's lamb must be most succulent.... Reading that though I can't work out whether Traynor really doesn't quite understand the situation re dual contracts, and the fact that whether Rangers showed the EBTs on their accounts or not is utterly irrelevant; or whether he understands fine, but is trying to create further ill-feeling among the orc hordes by using unrelated nonsense to confuse the issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermonkey Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 That is not what he is saying though is it. He is asking questions that will hopefully be answered when the findings of the panel are announced. What did you read ?.....Traynor's pish could've easily have been a post on FF or RM. Moron of a man, but we all already knew that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribzanelli Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Rangers fan in defending Rangers shocker. His smug attitude really grates, he is just another keyboard warrior with a more prominent platform from which to spout his p!sh Does anybody know what actually makes him any more qualified to discussed football than any other fan of the game? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Oh, Tedi, Tedi, Tedi. What joy you have brought to this thread in your (very) short residence. From your neddish avatar to your defence of your ex-clubs behaviour; from your linguistic struggles to your explanation for those stars, your every utterance has been an example of a childlike optimism and naivete. (apart from the abusive ones, of course) Now, with a new week, you manage to do what seemed impossible those few short weeks ago when Sevco got clearance for their tribute act you joined the forum. You've raised the bar higher than anyone could have hoped for, and I salute you. Yes, Tedi, you have C&P'd a Jim Traynor article in support of your argument. Well done, little fella. Well done indeed. You have kicked down the barriers and waltzed into territory even Bennett, Youngsy and the rest would shy away from. Erm... You are aware of what a froth-mouthed sevco apologist Traynor is, aren't you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwithme Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Loving Mourinho's quote in the Sun today : "There are some things that money can't buy - trophies and history," he told The Sun. Maybe he should call Charlie (mind you he did say if they liquidated, everything would be wiped) Yeah, Real's success is nothing to with money. Nor is Chelsea's..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Yeah, Real's success is nothing to with money. Nor is Chelsea's..... Yep, they've both got shitloads. As did rangers, relative to us diddies. How did that go for you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 What did you read ? I read the article....did you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasda Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) That "traynor" article; it is a windup eh? Not even the orcs are that stupid. ETA - I looked at the DR site and it is actually published. They are being spoon fed some affa stuff and appear to like it! Edited September 17, 2012 by Fasda 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Usual baffling logic from Traynor!! It doesn't matter if cheating might've went on, just leave it... 'cos the authorities should've detected it before now (the "few lines in the accounts" nonsense); it's not as important as creditors being shafted; and it'll accrue legal costs. That's the defence. EBTs? Potential 2nd contracts? Nothing to see here. Move along. He should send it to HMRC. That is not what he is saying though is it. He is asking questions that will hopefully be answered when the findings of the panel are announced. What Traynor is effectively saying is that he doesn't understand the issue. The *real* Rangers didn't register the second contracts with the SPL. They didn't register these contracts because, to do so, would have meant that they wouldn't have been able to use the EBT to make the payments stated in the second contracts. The *real* Rangers haven't been punished yet for this either by the taxman or the SPL. It is surely the biggest episode of cheating in the entire history of world professional football. Yet Traynor calls us "deranged" and wants us all to move on? Yeh, I think we all know who the deranged one really is! If found guilty then I think that the stripping of titles from the *real* Rangers will be the least of worries for the brand new club that is The Rangers FC (formed 2012, formerly known as Sevco). The real worry for this tribute act club is that they took on the SFA membership of the *real* Rangers and agreed to take full responsibility for everything that the *real* Rangers got up to. Massive financial penalties and immediate explusion from the SFA is surely the only outcome for this new mid table Third Division club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 That is not what he is saying though is it. He is asking questions that will hopefully be answered when the findings of the panel are announced. Isn't it? He opens with the conclusion it "might be time to drop this costly SPL charade" - then goes on to cite reasons including the legal costs of investigating the potential cheating; this tired 'defence' that SPL/SFA knew all the detail all along, based on a few lines in the accounts; the idea that giving Rangers a license somehow affected the legitimacy of later investigating potential offending; etc. He then gets that bit dafter still by passing-off as fact something which clearly isn't, being: "Even those supporters of other clubs, who believed EBTs were illegal for no other reason than they wanted it to be so just because it was big, bad Rangers, must accept they were above board" He then gets even dafter with the stuff about having Rangers loads of accountants on their Board (that sure stopped the HMRC stuff didn't it?), and Celtic never accusing them of cheating, It's precisely the "nothing worth seeing there" smokescreen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 That "traynor" article; it is a windup eh? Not even the orcs are that stupid. No, they are. Even more stupid. Traynor at least has a simple grasp of some of the issues. Ally McCoist's recent comments are more akin to your standard orc - albeit that even McCoist is like Einstein compared to some orcs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Or maybe he is asking why the SPL have either been completely incompetent for the past 10 years and have just missed what was being declared to them (They were never hidden and always declared in the audited accounts under the term Remuneration Trust) or do they now some other agenda I dont think the Juninho situation is unrelated nonsense but it has been swept under the carpet Who is paying fo all of this? Not the SPL they have no money, they still have no paid the £600k to the SPL clubs, its now over 2 months late, Hearts cant pay wages and they have blamed the SPL So who is paying for it? are Celtic or Peter L putting any money forward for this? Usual absurd logic. You don't just let concerns of massive cheating slide as investigating them costs money (imagine if you applied that approach to the legal system): and the 'accounts' defence is a nonsense... EBTs are not automatically 2nd contracts and thus forbiden, and nothing in the "few lines" of accounts indicated these EBTs were conceivably 2nd contracts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagmaster Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 How the f**k would you know? Do you not think I have eyes ya manky orc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Do you not think I have eyes ya manky orc. I have no idea if you have eyes. Any chance you can answer the question without the childish personal insults? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Traynor is no more than a Sevco friend and a massive WUM. Anyone who thinks he believes half of what he writes is in need of help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagmaster Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I have no idea if you have eyes. Any chance you can answer the question without the childish personal insults? Your question being how would I know it is the best start to the SPL in a while? Well, this may be County's first time in the SPL but I have viewed the SPL in the past. The fact your cheating club isn't there, added to the fact Celtic aren't having it all their own way has made for a great start to the season for a number of clubs (mine included). You may have a different opinion. I would imagine this hasn't been the best start to a season for you. GIRFUY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doink Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Traynors best pal is Leggo :lol: Everything Traynor has written on the Rangers story has been wrong. Rangers will play in the Premier League, that failed, Rangers will play in Division 1, they will not be allowed to play in Division 3. Wrong everytime. McCoist has quit Rangers, no wrong again.Walter Smith and his consortium are taking over, that was not right either. To Finish with the off the scale riches of Craig White :D 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribzanelli Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 As much as it pains me to defend them I think the Juninho thing is a massive smokescreen - is it not that they freed him, gave him his pay-off through an EBT, got told that was a bit nawty, paid the tax due on it, end of story. Or have I got it wrong? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermonkey Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I read the article....did you? I did...slowly, it's quite difficult to read whilst wiping tears of laughter from your eyes. Do you seriously believe ANYTHING that fat mutton muncher writes ? :lol: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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