~~~ Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) Celtic were shite and could not get the job done on the pitch, end of. Remember that next time one of your fellow fans moan about be cheating by Marseille From RM The allegations against them bribing Champions League teams were never proven. Let's face it though, they did. Edited January 29, 2013 by Enrico Annoni 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Would be hilarious if old co were to lose titles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killingfloorman Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Oh Christ Tedi, you're still using this "on the pitch" phrase as if it's remotely relevant when discussing title stripping. Argue about whether loans are payments if you like, but don't use this "on the pitch" pish. It's ludicrous. Of course the titles were won on the pitch - the issue concerns how they managed to put those players there. Be careful the next time they play you. After the gubbing you gave them, they'll try and sneak 14 players onto their team and then if they sneak it, they'll claim they won it on the pitch. Sevco reasoning, not so much: 'Ye cannae beat it', as: 'Ye cannae follow it' :lol: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 they'll try and sneak 14 players onto their team and then if they sneak it, they'll claim they won it on the pitch. You're right. By this 'on the pitch' lark, it would all be perfectly legitimate. Personally, I'm desperate to find out where else they might conceivably have won them, but nobody will tell me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killingfloorman Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 You're right. By this 'on the pitch' lark, it would all be perfectly legitimate. Personally, I'm desperate to find out where else they might conceivably have won them, but nobody will tell me. Didn't they win one inside a broom cupboard/toilet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Didn't they win one inside a broom cupboard/toilet? Good point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 What appeal? Do you think it was wrong they spent £5M of taxpayers money and lost? HMRC is a trillion pound organisaton. Do you think there more likely to care about money or the principle behind it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Didn't they win one inside a broom cupboard/toilet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 In a dream world, they'll have to resort to signing talentless journeymen and get relegated down the divisions. Mikey wins The Doris Stokes award for best fortune telling. Stokes? Kafflick name 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magoo9uk Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Didn't they win one inside a broom cupboard/toilet? As long as it's not the John Cullen Cupboard... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 HMRC is a trillion pound organisaton. Do you think there more likely to care about money or the principle behind it? Ironic they complaint about HMRC wasting taxpayers money, when they are being chased for none payment of money to the taxpayers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magoo9uk Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Ironic they complaint about HMRC wasting taxpayers money, when they are being chased for none payment of money to the taxpayers Super Lager is kicking in I see..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal1 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 1359494070[/url]' post='7030485']As long as it's not the John Cullen Cupboard... Ouch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Guess who's back?....................................Gio's back.............the real slim shady,,,,,,,,, 'Devil's Advocate lawyer' lied and conned clients out of £1m, court hears Giovanni di Stefano, known for taking 'unwinnable' cases, faces 25 charges including deception, fraud and money laundering Press Association The Guardian, Tuesday 29 January 2013 18.33 GMT Giovanni Di Stefano, known as the 'Devil's Advocate' lawyer, arrives at Southwark crown court in London. Photograph: Suzanne Plunkett/Reuters An Italian man who claimed to be a top lawyer – and became known as the Devil's Advocate for taking on "unwinnable" cases – conned clients out of £1m, a court has heard . Giovanni di Stefano, 57, who moved to Britain when he was five, is accused of setting himself up as a bona fide lawyer when he had no legal qualifications and was not registered to work as a lawyer in Italy or the UK. The alleged fraudster used the Italian word "avvocato" on business cards, letterheads and identification documents to give clients – and the judiciary – the impression he was an advocate. But, in fact, he was telling "deliberate lies" and was "not a qualified lawyer at all", the prosecution said. Di Stefano is on trial at Southwark crown court in London charged with 25 counts including deception, fraud and money laundering – all of which he denies. David Aaronberg QC, prosecuting, told the jury as he opened the case: "In a sentence, he is charged with various offences of deception, fraud, money laundering and forgery, and the prosecution say he committed those offences between 2004 and 2012." Aaronberg told the panel of eight women and four men that Di Stefano developed "something of a reputation" among convicted criminals, lawyers, the media and the wider community. In the past Di Stefano has advised clients including Saddam Hussein, Ronnie Biggs and disgraced pop mogul Jonathan King. "It was this that has gained him the fame, or the notoriety, that he enjoys," he said. "He was a man who was willing to provide legal services to clients whose cases others considered unwinnable or too difficult to defend. "He was willing to argue for unpopular causes. Somewhere along the way over the years, he acquired the soubriquet, or nickname, 'The Devil's Advocate'." Aaronberg said Di Stefano operated under the company name Studio Legalese Internazionale – which translates as The International Law Firm – and provided "legal advice" and "legal services" to people with all kinds of cases. He showed the jury pictures of business cards and headed note paper in which Di Stefano calls himself an "avvocato" and said he was attempting to convey "a clear impression to anyone who is reading these documents that he is writing as an 'avvocato', or advocate". He said: "The prosecution's case is, that by doing this, he was giving a clear indication – which was false – that he was a qualified lawyer. "Not only did he use the term 'avvocato' freely when he was not entitled to do so, he also told a number of individuals on many different occasions that he was a lawyer, when he was not." Aaronberg told the jury there were 10 victims, or sets of victims in Di Stefano's case. He said: "Between them, between June 2004 and December 2011, they lost a little under £1m – £929,828. "One person lost €10,000 and another lost about six-and-half thousand US dollars. "Some of those who lost money are people who themselves had been convicted of criminal offences. "But, more often, it was their family members who were prevailed upon to hand over money to Mr Di Stefano." Di Stefano denies nine counts of obtaining a money transfer by deception, eight counts of fraud, three counts of acquiring criminal property, two counts of using a false instrument, one count of attempting to obtain a money transfer by deception, one count of obtaining property by deception and one count of using criminal property. Di Stefano, of North Stream, Marshside, Canterbury in Kent, was born in the small town of Petrella Tifernina in central Italy, but moved to the UK as a boy and went to school in Wollaston, Northamptonshire. Aaronberg said Di Stefano deceived his victims because "he would have known full well that he was not qualified to practise at the Italian bar, any more than he was a surgeon who was qualified to perform surgery, or a pilot who was qualified to fly a plane". The prosecutor explained to the jury that in 2002 Di Stefano managed to persuade a high court judge, Mr Justice Peter Smith, to rule that he was indeed an "avvocato" after the defendant was denied permission to visit a prospective client by the governor at Belmarsh prison. Aaronberg said: "He personally informed Mr Justice Peter Smith that he was 'an Italian advocate of the Italian bar' and 'a responsible lawyer'. "In the course of the submissions Mr Di Stefano also indicated that he was subject to 'a code of conduct that has been inherent between client and attorney' as a consequence of which he was unable to divulge certain information requested by the judge. "We suggest on that occasion he was telling deliberate lies." The barrister told the jury Di Stefano would "point to this judgment" for many years when anybody questioned his credentials. Di Stefano, who is on bail, is permitted to sit out of the dock and behind his defence barrister, Leonard Smith QC, so that he can communicate with him more easily. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally88 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 aye. obsessed with a cheating horrible 'institution' crashing and burning. Costing me a fortune in grave dancing shoes. 'Loyal1' now that is classy! Let me guess, the word 'loyal' is now bigoted? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Let me guess, the word 'loyal' is now bigoted? No, just silly to use it. You didn't show much loyalty to Rangers when you changed over to the new club 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Billy dodds admitting to signing a second contract on the radio has been removed from YouTube. Make of that what you will. GUILTY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgf Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 will we see d murray on oprah? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 will we see d murray on oprah? d for 'duped' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookies Love Me Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 What is it with these rangers plebs on here? 1. They're willing to accept a 2:1 decision in "their" favour (FTTT). But, are not willing to accept anything that could go against them (because that's a conspiracy against us ). Smacks of bratish behaviour (not British as they keep claiming to be). Stand up and be counted, take your punishment like men, admit your failings and move on! 2. Why the f*ck do they keep feeling the need to create alias accounts? Can they not convince enough of their cretinous mates to sign up and join the discussion? (or could this be their split personalties shining through?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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