Bendarroch Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 So you backing king or not? I'd need a lot more information before deciding. This is a complex situation with numerous issues to address. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Quite correct, Bendarroch. Shame on you, Dave j. Imagine thinking we needed some kind of itemisation to judge what a bigoted little shitebag Bendy is. We'd already worked that out, thank you very much. Is that a sympathy vote for DJ's obsession with me after your own recent outing on that very subject, WKR? And 'shitebag'? FFS -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 There is zero new information in the Wallace quote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phasma ex machina Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I'd need a lot more information before deciding. This is a complex situation with numerous issues to address. No it isn't. Do you A/ want to back a crook who has stolen money out of Ibrox or B/ eeeh.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenockRover Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 A wee while ago we were discussing the SevCo and it's simi;arities to cows and how you milk them.....frequently. Two days ago this got shared onto my facebook.... Dave King variants may be added if you like TWO COWS ~{Matthias Varga} SOCIALISMYou have 2 cows.You give one to your neighbour COMMUNISM You have 2 cows.The State takes both and gives you some milk FASCISMYou have 2 cows.The State takes both and sells you some milk NAZISMYou have 2 cows.The State takes both and shoots you BUREAUCRATISM You have 2 cows.The State takes both, shoots one, milks the other, and thenthrows the milk away TRADITIONAL CAPITALISMYou have two cows.You sell one and buy a bull.Your herd multiplies, and the economygrows.You sell them and retire on the income ROYAL BANK OF SCOTLAND (VENTURE) CAPITALISM / Rangers F.C.You have two cows.You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened byyour brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemptionfor five cows.The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to a Cayman Island Company secretly owned by the majority shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company.The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more. You sell one cow to buy a new president of the United States , leaving you with nine cows. No balance sheet provided with the release.The public then buys your bull. SURREALISMYou have two giraffes.The government requires you to take harmonica lessons. AN AMERICAN CORPORATIONYou have two cows.You sell one, and force the other toproduce the milk of four cows.Later, you hire a consultant to analyse whythe cow has dropped dead. A GREEK CORPORATIONYou have two cows. You borrow lots of euros to build barns, milking sheds, hay stores, feed sheds,dairies, cold stores, abattoir, cheese unit and packing sheds.You still only have two cows. A FRENCH CORPORATIONYou have two cows.You go on strike, organise a riot, and block the roads, because you want threecows. A JAPANESE CORPORATIONYou have two cows.You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and producetwenty times the milk.You then create a clever cow cartoon image called a Cowkimona andmarket it worldwide. AN ITALIAN CORPORATIONYou have two cows,but you don't know where they are.You decide to have lunch. A SWISS CORPORATIONYou have 5000 cows. None of them belong to you.You charge the owners for storing them. A CHINESE CORPORATIONYou have two cows.You have 300 people milking them.You claim that you have full employment, and high bovine productivity.You arrest the newsman who reported the real situation. AN INDIAN CORPORATIONYou have two cows.You worship them. A BRITISH CORPORATIONYou have two cows.Both are mad. AN IRAQI CORPORATIONEveryone thinks you have lots of cows.You tell them that you have none.No-one believes you, so they bomb the ** out of you and invade your country.You still have no cows, but at least you are now a Democracy. AN AUSTRALIAN CORPORATIONYou have two cows.Business seems pretty good.You close the office and go for a few beers to celebrate. A NEW ZEALAND CORPORATIONYou have two cows.The one on the left looks very attractive... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydan Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Too many of these "good rangers men" talk a good job but have so far failed to buy any shares! Seems like he wants to get the fans onside then use their money to buy shares!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Do rangers fans think withholding season ticket money will help? That's probably what they fuckin want you to do... Then it's the fans fault the club died again. And the spivs walk away having torn every last shred from the limp body. Everything pawned off and sold to themselves through secured loans at knock down prices.... Until nothing is left. Fans withhold money... Loan secured against Murray park... Fans withhold money.,, loan secured against the stadium. Your car park and bus shelter have gone. What's left of any value? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Now if the fans groups are knickerwetting over the 1.5m loan, then maybe there is a need to come clean on the accounts. I don't suppose the fans groups or Dave King have access to these figures, but the board obviously do. Sure the accounts are due soon, would it not make more sense for the hysterics to start after the accounts have been made public so we can see where the cost reductions have been made rather than this knee jerk reaction? I would assume reducing the squad and the staff wages might not be the first choice to make the massive cuts given the need to reach the Premiership in the fastest time possible. I can't take you seriously unless your paragraphs uniformly alternate between red and blue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 To be honest the mess at rangers is all of there own doing,and my only concern is with my own club. ARMAGEDDON Let's face it as much as all other clubs fans would love for them to either die for good or play else where,we know in our hearts it's not going to happen. They have the largest fan base in the country and it is that, and only that,will be the reason that a team called Rangers will be back oops sorry will make it to the spfl in 2years. How long before they can compete with Celtic? much much longer me thinks . There fans are going to have to watch their team be defeated more often than they are used to. Will they stick with a mid table team? mmmmm we shall see. Disclaimer Just my opinion, which i reserve the right to alter in the event of the unforseen. That's a pretty decent post and not that much different to my own views, apart the wee "will be back" dig. One tip, though. Learn which league your team plays in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenockRover Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Didn't Dave King invest 20m in Rangers and lose the lot? When did he steal money out of Ibrox? Fucking hell....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aofjays Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Fucking hell....... I'm calling shenanigans, he's too perfect a caricature to be real. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I'm calling shenanigans, he's too perfect a caricature to be real. He's not colouring in as well as before, something is definitely up here...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Is that a sympathy vote for DJ's obsession with me after your own recent outing on that very subject, WKR? And 'shitebag'? FFS Don't get me wrong - I recognise all the words you've used there, but...well... Any chance of putting them in some kind of order that makes sense? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 MESSAGE To Rangers Supporters From Graham Wallace Rangers Chief Executive Graham Wallace has issued the following statement. “In recent days there has been considerable comment and speculation about the financial position of the Club and the motives of individuals managing it following the announcement of short term financing being put in place. “Much of the comment and opinion is unfortunately ill informed and directed at undermining the Club and the considerable efforts that are taking place to rebuild it following several years of mismanagement. “Therefore, I feel it is important, for the good of the Club, to set the record straight on a number of issues that are concerning Rangers supporters worldwide. “Many of the problems that the Board, Executive Team and staff are addressing on a daily basis date back some considerable time and as I said at the AGM in December 2013, there is no overnight fix. “Building trust in those managing the Club takes time. I understand that fans have a degree of scepticism, but we will demonstrate in due course the improvements being made to all areas of the Club. “Rangers supporters are naturally seeking assurances that their Club is being run and managed for the long term. We know there are short term financial challenges inherited from previous management, but we are well on track to putting these behind us and building a Club that is both sustainable and capable of delivering the on field success that Rangers is famous for. “It is therefore extremely concerning that public statements are being made that are factually incorrect. If left unchallenged, they would damage the reputation of the Club and individuals who are committed and working every day to rebuild it. “It has now been some 70 days since the AGM and our review of the entire business is progressing well. We are identifying the changes needed to reposition the Club on all fronts. No one is hiding behind a timeline to complete the review, but to develop and implement change in the correct manner requires time to get it right. “Of particular concern are media comments that the Club has been offered significant interest free loans which have been declined. This is wholly untrue and supporters need to know this. “Further comment about withholding future ticket revenues is also damaging to the operation of the Club which, in common with many others, operates on a cyclical basis. “We are putting in place a business structure and operational model that will protect and develop Rangers Football Club for future generations. “We know the Club will require investment in the future but until we have addressed the problems and deficiencies of the past, it would be foolhardy to seek additional investment without a clear plan of how to use it. We are also making good progress on the development of our medium term plans. “You, the fans have been tremendous in your support for the team over the past couple of seasons. As I outlined at the AGM, a process of improving fan engagement has commenced with the launch of the Club’s Ready To Listen campaign. This initiative has been welcomed by a great number of supporters and the results will be analysed and actions implemented in the near future. “The Board and Executive Team fully understand how important the fans are to the Club and we will never take this for granted. I made a personal commitment at the AGM to improve fan engagement and we have started on this process. “The values Rangers Football Club is famous for, and proud to honour, include professionalism, integrity and honesty(seems to have forgotten bigotry, tax dodging and cheating). Everyone involved with the Club shares these values and is working hard every day to ensure that the Club will continue to progress back to the top of Scottish and European football. “We need to do this together. Divisive campaigns, fuelled by inaccurate statements played out in the media benefit no one, particularly Rangers Football Club.” ————————————————————————— Sweet, salted, or buttered? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenolly Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Did Dave King invest 20m in Rangers and lose around 2m? Why did he not stop the old board ripping the heart out of Ibrox? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Imagine you're a football fan and the best hope for your club is someone like Dave King. How fucking depressing must that be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 MESSAGE To Rangers Supporters From Graham Wallace... “The values Rangers Football Club is famous for, and proud to honour, include professionalism, integrity and honesty..." It's truly incredible. I can think of no club in British football that is less closely associated with such values. Literally none. It must be the complete absence of them that necessitates mentioning them all the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Didn't Dave King invest 20m in Rangers and lose the lot? When did he steal money out of Ibrox? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 All this continued fighting for control of Rangers is putting of potential investors. What matters first is the club itself, this is bigger than who ever controls the club, so although I agree with what King is saying I can't agree with his call for supporters to hold back buying season tickets for next season especially as it unsettles the finances going into a new season. I think the best thing to do is for the rivals to acknowledge Wallace's wish for 120 days of peace and allow the people at the club to work together and move Rangers forward. How many times must a club liquidate before a club becomes a club? The answer my friend is blowing in the wind, the answer is blowing in the wind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Yes or no.any rangers fans on here.buying a season ticket ?try and answer honestly now.Y or N will do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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