Jacksgranda Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Best not to mention Icebergs in a Belfast related post Aye, salads aren't very popular over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-32732009 Strange story this - if I'm reading it right, the fraudsters had the guts of a week to take the money out of the account, but didn't. They went to the bother of opening a fake account but never got round to lifting their ill gotten gains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-32732009 Strange story this - if I'm reading it right, the fraudsters had the guts of a week to take the money out of the account, but didn't. They went to the bother of opening a fake account but never got round to lifting their ill gotten gains. The money was just resting in their account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 The money was just resting in their account. So it would appear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Point 2, that Paisley stuff was around for a couple of decades and was ignored. Tip of the iceberg, lol. Now that is ironic pathos..... Kincora was dealt with out in the open with a trial when the Troubles were at their height. There's a reason why TFS tip was the one that saw the light of day. If any sodomy was involved big Ian and co were not likely to be comfortable with it. Paisley had his faults but he wasn't like a TV evangelist in the US getting all the mugs to send in money so he can afford to snort cocaine off a hookers diddies. He really meant it on the sky fairy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 According to Bercow today, MPs don't get there salary until they've done the oath to Lizzie. I'll assume this means SF MPs don't get paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njord Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Even those pesky Chinese have an opinion... https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10152712447656580&id=47764841579&_rdr&ref=m_notif¬if_t=share_comment&__tn__=%2As Utterly bizarre . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 According to Bercow today, MPs don't get there salary until they've done the oath to Lizzie. I'll assume this means SF MPs don't get paid? They don't get their MP's salary, but they do get full, and not inconsiderable expenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co.Down Hibee Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Ah the integrity of the Shinners...... .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I would grant them a modicum of integrity insofar as they refuse to take their seats because of the oath. However, they ruin this somewhat by being the political wing of an organisation that murders people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 They do the constituency work and lobbying on their behalf, so they need expenses to cover that. If you ever have a gander at BBC Parliament when PMQ isn't on you can see how many other MPs actually turn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Is this the right bit of the board to discuss Cakegate and Chuckles' handshake with Gerry Adams or have both been done elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Yes and No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Yes and No All right, I shall have a go. Cakegate Were I a baker and asked to write a slogan on a cake supporting gay marriage then I would do so happily. Were I asked to write something like, "Aberdeen have won two European trophies" then I would tell the customer to GTF and I will not write such nonsense. The interesting thing is that the equality commissioner in NI said on the wireless that it's nothing about the message. This is simply cant writ large. It is everything about the message and folk should feel free to accept or reject what they are asked to write on cakes, FFS. Chuckles Not my favourite person but he showed true grace in shaking Adams' hand. I'd have spat in the b*****d's eye. Maybe he's learning from his maw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Unless I was really broke I would refuse to ice a cake with "Ban Gay Marriage", "Vote UKIP" or any other message I seriously disagreed with. People should be done for refusing to serve people because of their sexuality, not for refusing to promote something they disagree with. Freedom of speech includes not having to express something you are against. This case rips the piss out of equal rights legislation and makes it look ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Chuckles Not my favourite person but he showed true grace in shaking Adams' hand. I'd have spat in the b*****d's eye. Maybe he's learning from his maw? Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. I had to shake hands with the Sinn Fein Lord Mayor of Belfast a few years ago, although granted he wasn't an ex terrorist, just an apologiser for, and excuser of, ex-terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. I had to shake hands with the Sinn Fein Lord Mayor of Belfast a few years ago, although granted he wasn't an ex terrorist, just an apologiser for, and excuser of, ex-terrorists. I am sure that Charles and you were absolutely right. Cakegate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I am sure that Charles and you were absolutely right. Cakegate? I think the big mistake that Ashers made was in originally accepting the order and then cancelling it the next day. I don't think a business is obliged to "promote something they disagree with" as welshbairn said. Would a Palestinian tee shirt printer be expected to print a tee shirt saying "Support Jewish Settlements on The West Bank"? Or a Jewish baker to bake a cake adorned with "There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is His prophet"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co.Down Hibee Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I think the big mistake that Ashers made was in originally accepting the order and then cancelling it the next day. I don't think a business is obliged to "promote something they disagree with" as welshbairn said. Would a Palestinian tee shirt printer be expected to print a tee shirt saying "Support Jewish Settlements on The West Bank"? Or a Jewish baker to bake a cake adorned with "There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is His prophet"? As far as I'm aware the law is that if you are open to the public then you must not discriminate against anyones ethnic origin or sexual orientation, so basically they cannot turn someone away for being gay as they have done so in this case, It may be a little different though if you ask for something political ,for example the West Bank thing. I have used Ashers before but can honestly say I wouldn't touch anything of theirs with a barge pole now, I'm sure a lot of people will feel the same way, probably they'll be happier with good ,god fearing DUP types who can come in and discuss their vile outdated bigoted views with each other over a custard slice . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 The ins and outs of cakegate don't really bother me, they are bigots, they denied people service based on that bigotry and they have been punished as a result, surely a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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