Howlin' Wilf Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 More on the Bet Butler story. http://www.casinonewsdaily.com/2014/09/21/betbutler-declares-bankruptcy-owes-thousands-pounds-punters/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 http://www.dumbartonfootballclub.com/news/?mode=view&id=1671 Interesting piece on the website about how we use video analysis. David Jenkinson is the cameraman. From a long line of Dumbarton supporters from Helensburgh. It was his big brother Jim who first got me supporting the Sons in the mists of time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 More on the Bet Butler story. http://www.casinonewsdaily.com/2014/09/21/betbutler-declares-bankruptcy-owes-thousands-pounds-punters/ That reads like it was written by someone for whom English isn't their first language. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 That reads like it was written by someone for whom English isn't their first language. That makes it similar to many of the posts on Pie and Bovril. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 That makes it similar to many of the posts on Pie and Bovril. Que? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 So, Andy Hosie is the guy involved with Brabco, yes? Their problems started in 2006, they sponsored our shirts and stadium in 2012/13? And from all available info we can assume that these businessmen knew exactly where Bet Butler was going by that point. If your company was going down the pan, would sponsoring a part-time football team be high on your agenda? I'd be very interested to know the ins and outs of that deal and whether or not we're owed money from them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 So, Andy Hosie is the guy involved with Brabco, yes? Their problems started in 2006, they sponsored our shirts and stadium in 2012/13? And from all available info we can assume that these businessmen knew exactly where Bet Butler was going by that point. If your company was going down the pan, would sponsoring a part-time football team be high on your agenda? I'd be very interested to know the ins and outs of that deal and whether or not we're owed money from them. It's admittedly hard to decipher from that attrocious website article, but it wasn't Bet Butler whose problems started in 06, in fact I don't even think they were formed then; it was Farepak. BB's problems will have started within the recent past, say a year or so presumably. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/item/2913-a-safe-bet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 BB company deetz here: Formed 2007, changed name to Bet Butler in 09. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 It's admittedly hard to decipher from that attrocious website article, but it wasn't Bet Butler whose problems started in 06, in fact I don't even think they were formed then; it was Farepak. BB's problems will have started within the recent past, say a year or so presumably. Fair enough. I'd still be interested to know if they owe us money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Fair enough. I'd still be interested to know if they owe us money. I'd be amazed if there was ever much money in their sponsorship deal. Wasn't it a last minute thing as we hadn't looked for a sponsor or something like that? Probably just paid for the strips and the cost of the signage and hoardings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Still though, nice to know that our beloved overlords are such good business people. That's highly reassuring as we head on down the road with them towards a multi million pound stadium move. I wonder if Alan Jardine has met the rest of them yet? *starts holding breath* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I'm sure I remember the Bet Butler sponsorship deal being touted at the time as fairly lucrative by our standards. They were also involved with clubs like Sunderland so must have been paying relatively good sponsorship money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I'd be amazed if there was ever much money in their sponsorship deal. Wasn't it a last minute thing as we hadn't looked for a sponsor or something like that? Probably just paid for the strips and the cost of the signage and hoardings. Aye, it's more the thinking behind these guys I'm trying to get a better idea of rather than how much out of pocket we are. I mean, I know they don't give a f**k about us but it would be nice to have it confirmed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 We already know they don't give a f**k about us. They see DFC as an inconvenience sitting atop a goldmine, nothing more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Aye, it's more the thinking behind these guys I'm trying to get a better idea of rather than how much out of pocket we are. I mean, I know they don't give a f**k about us but it would be nice to have it confirmed. And yet their time at the Rock has coincided with the club's highest standing in the game in 30 years. Or maybe folk preferred Neil Rankine? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 And yet their time at the Rock has coincided with the club's highest standing in the game in 30 years. Or maybe folk preferred Neil Rankine? Jardine openly admitted that they have contributed the square root of ziltch to the cause so I'd put that down to the hard work of others. Other than providing financial backing I can't see how else they could contribute to our rise up the leagues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) And yet their time at the Rock has coincided with the club's highest standing in the game in 30 years. Or maybe folk preferred Neil Rankine? No, I don't think they did Wilf. However, to suggest that Brabco have somehow taken DFC to it's current position by means of a structured, financed plan or anything like it would be an utter nonsense. Their time as (largely absentee) owners has coincided with great efforts made by the local Directors who actually run the club and who have in the main managed what finances are available wisely. It also helped greatly that a team which finished in fourth position was (unusually) able to gain promotion via the play-offs, the corollary of that being that we were able to subsequently attract a young manager with potential in Ian Murray, again mainly down to the 'local' Board. Let's make sure credit goes where it's due - long way to go yet for Brabco. 'Coincided' is the key word here. Edited January 15, 2015 by O'Kelly Isley III 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 No, I don't think they did Wilf. However, to suggest that Brabco have somehow taken DFC to it's current position by means of a structured, financed plan or anything like it would be an utter nonsense. Their time as (largely absentee) owners has coincided with great efforts made by the local Directors who actually run the club and who have in the main managed what finances are available wisely. It also helped greatly that a team which finished in fourth position was (unusually) able to gain promotion via the play-offs, the corollary of that being that we were able to subsequently attract a young manager with potential in Ian Murray, again mainly down to the 'local' Board. Let's make sure credit goes where it's due - long way to go yet for Brabco. 'Coincided' is the key word here. We were third in the playoff season, Airdrie were 4th. Completely agree with the rest of your post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 No, I don't think they did Wilf. However, to suggest that Brabco have somehow taken DFC to it's current position by means of a structured, financed plan or anything like it would be an utter nonsense. Their time as (largely absentee) owners has coincided with great efforts made by the local Directors who actually run the club and who have in the main managed what finances are available wisely. It also helped greatly that a team which finished in fourth position was (unusually) able to gain promotion via the play-offs, the corollary of that being that we were able to subsequently attract a young manager with potential in Ian Murray, again mainly down to the 'local' Board. Let's make sure credit goes where it's due - long way to go yet for Brabco. 'Coincided' is the key word here. I suggested nothing of the sort. However I am absolutely 100% certain that had Neil Rankine remained in charge we would not currently be in the championship and Ian Murray would not be our manager. In all likelihood we'd be in division three, facing a future without a club and almost certainly be facing a points deduction. The day to day running of the club is down to the chief exec whom I understand is a Brabco appointee and paid by them, as well as being a Sons fan since Adam was a boy. It would have been his task to attract Ian Murray don't you think? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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