optimistic Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 So he plays well then gets dropped? That will never get his fitness or sharpness up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Desperate Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm not sure if you're trolling or just a bit simple, but with every second post I believe slightly more it's the latter. An unfit player (whoever he may be) is a passenger.[/quote "Simple" "drivel" "troll" (read what a posted earlier)......mate chill out ....if it's a love in you want then all go but if you want to have some debate then bring it on but don't act the smarterse ! -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm not sure if you're trolling or just a bit simple, but with every second post I believe slightly more it's the latter.An unfit player (whoever he may be) is a passenger.[/quote "Simple" "drivel" "troll" (read what a posted earlier)......mate chill out ....if it's a love in you want then all go but if you want to have some debate then bring it on but don't act the smarterse ! ^^^^Word Salad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonsanorak Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Ct's been shite since cowden away. Pretty sure he was involved inthe livvy game at ours and was then dropped. I've not seen petrie play, but why take him on loan and not play him? Kieran mcdonald came in before christmas and left seemingly disappointed to not get a real chance. Despite mich being lukewarm and linton being injured, murray played other players there and changed the shape. He seems to be doing the same now with petrie. Murray seems set on playing wide midfielders in a shape that better supports the strikers than defend or put in crosses. As for CT, I think he could be one of a few players now who dont want to be here. feelers will be out from other xlubs already and players will have a feeling about whether or not the manager rates them. Obviously mich can apply for a mortgage, he s got a job for life with murray 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Desperate Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Agree with most points but still believe CT will be an asset whether he needs a kick up the arse or nurtured back to fitness that's a call for Murray. As for Mitch you're probably right but have to mention Murrays blindspot for Gill- although he did lose his patience with him in the Cowden game it was a long time coming. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sons'r'us Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm sure part of Turners wages were coming from the Bet Butler guys. Could it be that their demise is linked with Turners current shape/form? Just saying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Some right shite getting posted on this thread, hiy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo90 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Agree with most points but still believe CT will be an asset whether he needs a kick up the arse or nurtured back to fitness that's a call for Murray. As for Mitch you're probably right but have to mention Murrays blindspot for Gill- although he did lose his patience with him in the Cowden game it was a long time coming. Gilhaneys been one of the more consistent performers Id say. Falkirk away (1-1) hearts away (2nd half) and Rangers cup game he was excellent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Agree with most points but still believe CT will be an asset whether he needs a kick up the arse or nurtured back to fitness that's a call for Murray. As for Mitch you're probably right but have to mention Murrays blindspot for Gill- although he did lose his patience with him in the Cowden game it was a long time coming. The only people I know with a blindspot for Gil are in the boardroom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 The only people I know with a blindspot for Gil are in the boardroom. And not in a positive way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochSonsFan Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Gilhaney is a useful player. His crossing could be better but his limits as an out and out attacking wide man are balanced against his work rate and the cover he gives a right back. We're better with him in the side than without. You only need to look at how exposed our left bacl can be at times to see what Gils gives. As for others, a big part of our current woes must be blamed on the gaffer. The diamond midfield doesnt work. Our players know it. Opponents know it. It cant be good as a player to know that you'll be overrun in midfield every week or that you'll be played out of position. We're struggling for goals and yet when chasing an equaliser at home to Cowden, Megginson is the deepest player on the park and is in the centre circle. Thats absolutely not right - I wouldn't blame players for being frustrated. Murray rightly took a lot of praise keeping us up in his first season and last season we surprised many with the ease with which we secured our league status. If its now going wrong then he's equally deserving of criticism. If we're not careful then we may well need to worry about this years relegation play off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Mark Gilhaney, outside of Andy Graham, has been our most consistent performer over the last 3 years. Christ Turner hasn't kicked a ball all season. Let's drop Mark Gilhaney and play CT because CT needs games. #sonsfanlogic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Perhaps the performances from some of our players is down to playing them in a formation they are not comfortable with? It would be interesting to see the results when we played 4-4-2 compared with the other combinations Murray has come up with in his time here. There is potentially a good side in there somewhere, it just seems as though their creativity is being stifled by the tactics and formations they are being asked to play in. It's also frustrating that despite saying that he wouldn't bring in any new players unless they are better than what we already have, that 2 of them were sat on the bench on Saturday and not brought on until it was way too late. Yes, I'm grateful for what what Murray has done for Dumbarton, but I can't help but think that he really has to swallow his pride here, stop tinkering, and play the players to their strengths and stop trying to fit square pegs in round holes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeezeboxson Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 There really is a lot of rubbish being posted here eh? Top trolling from Dan as well. CT hasn't been anywhere near the level of performances we were seeing last season - Cowden aside. The lightweight midfield lacks a player like him, but in his current form and shape, he is pretty useless. Pull Garry back into the middle and play young Hacksaw upfront with Archie off of him. Petrie should also start in the midfield, pretty sure he is a left sided midfielder so why not try him a LM and rest Mitch, or drop Archie and play Mitch off of Duggan? A few options and many different opinions, but Gilhaney has been our best player this season and CT has been one of the worst. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Assuming he's offered a new contract, I think it will be next season before we see the best of CT. He needs a pre-season. Hope I'm wrong though as a fully fit and firing Turner is a force to be reckoned with. That's a big assumption. He's a good player but I don't think it's just his fitness that is the problem 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Mark Gilhaney, outside of Andy Graham, has been our most consistent performer over the last 3 years. Christ Turner hasn't kicked a ball all season. Let's drop Mark Gilhaney and play CT because CT needs games. #sonsfanlogic Aye, this. I've never understood some fans dislike of Gils, luckily most of the P&B regulars understand the crucial role he plays for the team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'm sure part of Turners wages were coming from the Bet Butler guys. Could it be that their demise is linked with Turners current shape/form? Just saying. My reading of the situation is that Bet Butler are Brabco, it's the same people, and we already know by admission of our chairman and CEO that they haven't invested a penny in us. That would suggest they weren't paying for anyone's wages. It may be that they got him a job as a personal trainer and are taking credit for him getting that wage but I'm not sure. Is Turner definitely still a PT? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 My reading of the situation is that Bet Butler are Brabco, it's the same people, and we already know by admission of our chairman and CEO that they haven't invested a penny in us. That would suggest they weren't paying for anyone's wages. It may be that they got him a job as a personal trainer and are taking credit for him getting that wage but I'm not sure. Is Turner definitely still a PT? https://www.linkedin.com/pub/chris-turner/9a/337/159 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 https://www.linkedin.com/pub/chris-turner/9a/337/159 Cheers! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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