CarrbridgeSaintee Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: One started out in Dan Winter's cottage in Loughgall during the 1798 Rebellion and the other commemorates the actions of the 13 apprentice boys who closed the gates at the start of the second siege of Londonderry in 1689. One is steeped in the Anglican Ascendancy in terms of its origins, while the other was more about opposition to the Jacobite claimants to the thrones of the three kingdoms, who interestingly in a Scottish context often tended to be supported by Episcopalians (i.e. Anglicans) as well as Roman Catholics. On the flip side of that over in Ulster, many/most Presbyterians actually sided with the 1798 Rebellion against the Anglican Ascendancy. In a Scottish context it would be a bit like having different groups for parades about the Wars of Independence and the Covenanters or something like that, but the Orange Order eventually latched onto the Battle of the Boyne as their big thing so I guess that sort of parallel isn't exact. Interesting how people seem to know so little about what they are able to work up such intense hatred for. One reason that the ABoD is smaller is because you actually have to go to Londonderry to join. Agree with most of this, and absolutely agree with your point regarding lack of knowledge and intense hatred. Dan Winter’s cottage is well worth a visit. Hilda Winter is a charming, captivating lady and makes the best apple tart known to man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: One started out in Dan Winter's cottage in Loughgall during the 1798 Rebellion and the other commemorates the actions of the 13 apprentice boys who closed the gates at the start of the second siege of Londonderry in 1689. One is steeped in the Anglican Ascendancy in terms of its origins, while the other was more about opposition to the Jacobite claimants to the thrones of the three kingdoms, who interestingly in a Scottish context often tended to be supported by Episcopalians (i.e. Anglicans) as well as Roman Catholics. On the flip side of that over in Ulster, many/most Presbyterians actually sided with the 1798 Rebellion against the Anglican Ascendancy. In a Scottish context it would be a bit like having different groups for parades about the Wars of Independence and the Covenanters or something like that, but the Orange Order eventually latched onto the Battle of the Boyne as their big thing so I guess that sort of parallel isn't exact. Interesting how people seem to know so little about what they are able to work up such intense hatred for. One reason that the ABoD is smaller is because you actually have to go to Londonderry to join. Which mob are the bigger shower of sad bigots? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 22 hours ago, Cosmic Joe said: Which mob are the bigger shower of sad bigots? If the origins of one of them is just anti-Roman Catholic and the other one is also anti-Anglican then the answer to your question will depend on what you think of the Archbishop of Canterbury But in more important news Scotland again lost 3 early wickets batting first against the UAE but this time it was Richie Berrington coming in at 4 that steadied the ship and, with 127 off 136 balls, guided Scotland to a respectable 282 UAE need 160 from 24 overs but are 6 wickets down already so things are looking promising ETA: Just after I hit Reply Basil Hameed, the Emirati number 6, deflected the ball into his own stumps I've upgraded "Promising" to "good" Edited June 23, 2023 by topcat(The most tip top) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Safyaan Sharif wraps up the last three wickets for very little and Scotland win by 111 runs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 According to the Mahāvaṃsa, the legendary Prince Vijaya named the island now known as Sri Lanka Tambapaṇṇĩ("copper-red hands" or "copper-red earth"), because his followers' hands were reddened by the red soil of the area where he landed and it’s the Sri Lankans that hold the upper red hand now as they’ve set Ireland a colossal target of 326 in Harare meanwhile Scotland have scored 320 against Oman to set a similarly daunting total A 3rd defeat for Ireland today would see them and the UAE eliminated while Scotland, Sri Lank and Oman would move on to super six probably facing Zimbabwe, West Indies and the Netherland Teams that progress from the group stages carry their results against each other into the final six so Scotland vs Oman has even more riding on it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Edinburgh apparently saw the "John Knox Orange and Purple District LOL Annual Demonstration" last Saturday But because it clashed with Pride I don't think anybody noticed In other news Sri Lanka vs Scotland is delicately poised with the Sri Lankans on 157/4 in the 33rd over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 22/06/2023 at 15:48, CarrbridgeSaintee said: Agree with most of this, and absolutely agree with your point regarding lack of knowledge and intense hatred. Dan Winter’s cottage is well worth a visit. Hilda Winter is a charming, captivating lady and makes the best apple tart known to man. Must have went on a bad day or i met her sister or a neighbour. One grumpy old lady. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 22/06/2023 at 15:40, LongTimeLurker said: One started out in Dan Winter's cottage in Loughgall during the 1798 Rebellion and the other commemorates the actions of the 13 apprentice boys who closed the gates at the start of the second siege of Londonderry in 1689. One is steeped in the Anglican Ascendancy in terms of its origins, while the other was more about opposition to the Jacobite claimants to the thrones of the three kingdoms, who interestingly in a Scottish context often tended to be supported by Episcopalians (i.e. Anglicans) as well as Roman Catholics. On the flip side of that over in Ulster, many/most Presbyterians actually sided with the 1798 Rebellion against the Anglican Ascendancy. In a Scottish context it would be a bit like having different groups for parades about the Wars of Independence and the Covenanters or something like that, but the Orange Order eventually latched onto the Battle of the Boyne as their big thing so I guess that sort of parallel isn't exact. Interesting how people seem to know so little about what they are able to work up such intense hatred for. One reason that the ABoD is smaller is because you actually have to go to Londonderry to join. Preferred the Mem tour rather than Dan Winters cottage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 22/06/2023 at 15:40, LongTimeLurker said: One started out in Dan Winter's cottage in Loughgall during the 1798 Rebellion and the other commemorates the actions of the 13 apprentice boys who closed the gates at the start of the second siege of Londonderry in 1689. One is steeped in the Anglican Ascendancy in terms of its origins, while the other was more about opposition to the Jacobite claimants to the thrones of the three kingdoms, who interestingly in a Scottish context often tended to be supported by Episcopalians (i.e. Anglicans) as well as Roman Catholics. On the flip side of that over in Ulster, many/most Presbyterians actually sided with the 1798 Rebellion against the Anglican Ascendancy. In a Scottish context it would be a bit like having different groups for parades about the Wars of Independence and the Covenanters or something like that, but the Orange Order eventually latched onto the Battle of the Boyne as their big thing so I guess that sort of parallel isn't exact. Interesting how people seem to know so little about what they are able to work up such intense hatred for. One reason that the ABoD is smaller is because you actually have to go to Londonderry to join. Apprentice Boys of Londonderry? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 22/06/2023 at 15:40, LongTimeLurker said: One started out in Dan Winter's cottage in Loughgall during the 1798 Rebellion and the other commemorates the actions of the 13 apprentice boys who closed the gates at the start of the second siege of Londonderry in 1689. One is steeped in the Anglican Ascendancy in terms of its origins, while the other was more about opposition to the Jacobite claimants to the thrones of the three kingdoms, who interestingly in a Scottish context often tended to be supported by Episcopalians (i.e. Anglicans) as well as Roman Catholics. On the flip side of that over in Ulster, many/most Presbyterians actually sided with the 1798 Rebellion against the Anglican Ascendancy. In a Scottish context it would be a bit like having different groups for parades about the Wars of Independence and the Covenanters or something like that, but the Orange Order eventually latched onto the Battle of the Boyne as their big thing so I guess that sort of parallel isn't exact. Interesting how people seem to know so little about what they are able to work up such intense hatred for. One reason that the ABoD is smaller is because you actually have to go to Londonderry to join. Could add the ABOD was a lot later appearing as an organisation in Scotland. 1903? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, PossilYM said: Preferred the Mem tour rather than Dan Winters cottage. Only done the Memorial Hall. Might get around to the other one at some point but still have things like the Giants Causeway to check out as well if I can ever find a reason to visit that part of the world again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Probably a good idea to avoid Glasgow this saturday if you can. Gonna be all over the place and then the big walk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Only done the Memorial Hall. Might get around to the other one at some point but still have things like the Giants Causeway to check out as well if I can ever find a reason to visit that part of the world again. Take Dr Johnson's word for it. "Worth seeing? Yes; but not worth going to see." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Thane of Cawdor said: Take Dr Johnson's word for it. "Worth seeing? Yes; but not worth going to see." Never a truer word said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Martin Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 On 27/06/2023 at 22:10, LongTimeLurker said: Only done the Memorial Hall. Might get around to the other one at some point but still have things like the Giants Causeway to check out as well if I can ever find a reason to visit that part of the world again. The Siege Museum is terrific. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Given A) the bright colour traditionally associated with these events and B) the level of delusion involved in the participants belief that these events are anything but an irrelevance to most folk, I propose that from now on they be referred to as Fanta-sy parades. Cheers. I think I need a beer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Scotland have got the Windies at 63/5 just now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 In a homage to this thread, the commentators have just acknowledged the quality look of Mark Watt's blue and orange boots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 37 minutes ago, HTG said: Scotland have got the Windies at 63/5 just now. 81/6 now This isn’t a vintage Windies side by any means they lost to the Netherlands on a super over so I thought we had a chance here but I don’t think anybody expected things to go this well 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 The West Indian middle order rallied a bit but Scotland still only need 182 to eliminate the West Indies from the world cup 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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