Burma Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 excluding the Dks, slightly skews the actual poll result, appears the side losing are doing better than they are Difference being Sturgeon commented on actual poll standing, when asked, Salmond on the Marr show quoted the poll unsolicited and did not explain how he came to his outcome Did Marr not present the polls as evidence that YES were losing and invite Salmond to comment or was it a completely unrelated question? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) Did Marr not present the polls as evidence that YES were losing and invite Salmond to comment or was it a completely unrelated question? No, it was Salmond who mentioned the poll Can you specifically point out where she was asked to comment? As far as I can see, her quote is contained in an SNP press release. The release gives some figures, then Nicola gives her unsolicited take on what the figures mean. I fail to see how this differs from what Eck did. Seriously Ecto, stop digging. Admit you lied & were called on it. Am not the one digging, you are the one finding the info, to in some way to protect Salmond, you know he is a "big boy" who is more than capable of sticking up for himself Edited June 22, 2014 by ecto 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 No, it was Salmond who mentioned the poll Am not the one digging, you are the one finding the info, to in some way to protect Salmond, you know he is a "big boy" who is more than capable of sticking up for himself ^^^ utterly obsessed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 excluding the Dks, slightly skews the actual poll result, appears the side losing are doing better than they are You do realise people can't vote Don't Know in the referendum, don't you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 You do realise people can't vote Don't Know in the referendum, don't you? I think a lot of don't knows won't actually vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I think a lot of don't knows won't actually vote. source - Lex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I think a lot of don't knows won't actually vote. This is what BetterTogether/NoThanks/NoBorders/UKOK/VoteNo are banking on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) No, it was Salmond who mentioned the pollWhat was the question he was responding to? Edited June 22, 2014 by Burma 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 What was the question he was responding to? Don't expect a coherent answer. Ecto appears to have given up any pretence of defending his lie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I think a lot of don't knows won't actually vote. In that case, if the result is 55% Yes & 45% No on an 80% turnout, will you and Ecto start a campaign to have the result overturned because the Yes vote has been inflated because the non-voters weren't counted? In Ecto's eyes, that particular result would mean that Yes only gained the votes of 44% of the total electorate, whilst the No vote (36%) and the non-voting 20% would total 56%. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Meanwhile, the UK Government is quietly funding Better Together's private pollinghttp://www.sundaypost.com/news-views/scotland/independence-referendum/uk-government-accused-of-funding-no-campaign-1.435240Even though the Secretary of State for Portsmouth had previously stated “the principle is it’s government research and we don’t release it”, the principle does not appear to apply to sharing the information with the "No" side 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Ecto - it's not about defending Salmond. It's more about exposing the lies promoted by the No side, . Why are you concerned merely with "exposing" the lies of one side? Whay aren't you just as concerned with the lies from the SNP? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Why are you concerned merely with "exposing" the lies of one side? Whay aren't you just as concerned with the lies from the SNP? snp snp snp snp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The usual "obsessed with the SNP" stuff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) The usual "obsessed with the SNP" stuff As they are the government that are asking the question, they run the independence campaign, they control the independence campaign - of course it's about the SNP.But then the NCC will try to paint it otherwise. Politicians are politicians. Edited June 22, 2014 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 As they are the government that are asking the question, they run the independence campaign, they control the independence campaign - of course it's about the SNP. But then the NCC will try to paint it otherwise. Politicians are politicians. Half_Baked is a well known troll who continually asks questions along the lines of "Have you stopped beating your wife - Yes or No" As his question above falls into that category, I don't see any point in answering it. However, in response to your point, I would agree that the SNP are the main driving force in the independence debate. Other parties (the Greens & most parties of the left) also support independence. However, not every member of the SNP, Greens & Socialists will vote Yes. Similarly, not every Labour, Libdem, Tory & Ukipper will vote No. As such, the debate is between those of us that believe that Scotland will prosper under indy, and those that believe that we will prosper under the Union. Accordingly, it's not wholly about the SNP. Surely you can appreciate this distinction? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 As they are the government that are asking the question, they run the independence campaign, they control the independence campaign - of course it's about the SNP. But then the NCC will try to paint it otherwise. Politicians are politicians. Yes Scotland runs the independence campaign. HTH. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Half_Baked is a well known troll who continually asks questions along the lines of "Have you stopped beating your wife - Yes or No" As his question above falls into that category, I don't see any point in answering it. Uh what? Are you denying that the Yes campaign have lied to us? And think about this carefully. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Yes Scotland runs the independence campaign. HTH. The SNP runs Yes Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 The SNP runs Yes Scotland. Source - H_B. Does it stand for Huggy Bear, btw? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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