ICTChris Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Survation have published a poll (in the Daily Mail) on the debate. http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Post-Independence-Debate-Poll-tables.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 That was already done a few pages ago. Are we seriously being lead to believe that Yes lost three points as a result of a debate which really didn't have anything out of the ordinary in it? Alex Salmond's assertions that a currency union will definitely happen are nothing new and it has been the same story for the last nine months or so. People who have changed to Yes knew this when they switched. Simply not having it. I'm fully aware that Yes may not win but that poll is a pisstake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) That was already done a few pages ago. Are we seriously being lead to believe that Yes lost three points as a result of a debate which really didn't have anything out of the ordinary in it? Alex Salmond's assertions that a currency union will definitely happen are nothing new and it has been the same story for the last nine months or so. People who have changed to Yes knew this when they switched. Simply not having it. I'm fully aware that Yes may not win but that poll is a pisstake. Just you keep thinking that champ :lol: Edited August 10, 2014 by ecto 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Sorry, I didn't want to wade back through to check if it had been posted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Just you keep thinking that champ :lol: Should we start referring to you as Mr Ecto? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Should we start referring to you as Mr Ecto? would only be polite, 7 days ago the debate was going to be the start of the "Yes" surge for the last 6 weeks, debate went horribly for Salmond, now it is "I never put any great importance on the debate" line from many on here, if Salmond had won the debate and the polls had gone the other way there would have been a "frenzy" over it, but since it did not, many have to watch with all the back-tracking they don't fall over, just saying -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) would only be polite, 7 days ago the debate was going to be the start of the "Yes" surge for the last 6 weeks, debate went horribly for Salmond, now it is "I never put any great importance on the debate" line from many on here, if Salmond had won the debate and the polls had gone the other way there would have been a "frenzy" over it, but since it did not, many have to watch with all the back-tracking they don't fall over, just sayingFunny that isn't it? Same time every NO voter was on saying that this debate won't change anything as we all know darling is a lying d*ckhead .And here we are now with the NO voters having a " frenzy " over it. Your trolling is shaming Mr Bairns lack of imagination. Edited August 10, 2014 by Blaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Funny how before the debate all the no voters were saying it wouldn't have an effect at all. There's still hope but it's not looking likely atm. Too many people can't see past the SNP unfortunately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) Funny that isn't it? Same time every NO voter was on saying that this debate won't change anything as we all know darling is a lying d*ckhead . And here we are now with the NO voters having a " frenzy " over it. Your trolling is shaming Mr Bairns lack of imagination. What did you expect we had weeks of Salmond being built up as the "master debater", so much of the BT noise about the debate has in fact been more about the fact that the "master debater" tag which was hung on the FM was shown to have been a complete and utter myth It does appear now that Salmond weaknesses have now been exposed, and they were laid bare for all to see, so it does appear the truth does indeed hurt It is also been obvious on this thread, that good polls for the YesScotland campaign were always treated on this with much "fanfare", bad polls were dismissed not just out of hand, but at time quite aggressively dismissed, that my friend cannot be denied Edited August 10, 2014 by ecto 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 What did you expect we had weeks of Salmond being built up as the "master debater", so much of the BT noise about the debate has in fact been more about the fact that the "master debater" tag which was hung on the FM was shown to have been a complete and utter myth It does appear now that Salmond weaknesses have now been exposed, and they were laid bare for all to see, so it does appear the truth does indeed hurt It is also been obvious on this thread, that good polls for the YesScotland campaign were always treated on this with much "fanfare", bad polls were dismissed not just out of hand, but at time quite aggressively dismissed, that my friend cannot be denied Are you making a point about independence or just trying to point score? Yes it did expose a weakness in Salmond. When it comes to a shouting match, going into detail is a waste of time. Stick to sound bites and slogans. Add the occasional pointy finger and shake of fist and he will do better next time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Are you making a point about independence or just trying to point score? Yes it did expose a weakness in Salmond. When it comes to a shouting match, going into detail is a waste of time. Stick to sound bites and slogans. Add the occasional pointy finger and shake of fist and he will do better next time. Had you down as been better than many of "sore" losers on this forum, but apparently not, pity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 What did you expect we had weeks of Salmond being built up as the "master debater", so much of the BT noise about the debate has in fact been more about the fact that the "master debater" tag which was hung on the FM was shown to have been a complete and utter myth It does appear now that Salmond weaknesses have now been exposed, and they were laid bare for all to see, so it does appear the truth does indeed hurt It is also been obvious on this thread, that good polls for the YesScotland campaign were always treated on this with much "fanfare", bad polls were dismissed not just out of hand, but at time quite aggressively dismissed, that my friend cannot be denied Had you down as been better than many of "sore" losers on this forum, but apparently not, pity The debate did not go the way I wanted it to. The polls seem to show that. Your point about bad losers is probably an accurate one - but you do come across as gloating and point-scoring whilst making it. The depressing thing for me, is that too many people still think this is about Salmond - or the SNP. You basically state that in the first post I've quoted. Scottish independence has very little to do with Alex Salmond. That's not deflection, or spin, its just the way I (and many other Yes voters) see it. Its about a small nation taking control over its own political affairs - and changing the political direction that we have been subjected to for far too long. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Had you down as been better than many of "sore" losers on this forum, but apparently not, pity Are you kidding me, Blaven is one of the worst members of the NCC. The real winner out of the state of affairs, as has been said before, is Jamaldo. In almost any other landscape he would stick out like a sore thumb but on here he blends in NCC rankings 1. Parp 2. Confusedalot 3. AUFC90 4. Blaven 5. Jamaldo 9000001. Renton 9000000000000000000001. Ad Lib 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Are you kidding me, Blaven is one of the worst members of the NCC. The real winner out of the state of affairs, as has been said before, is Jamaldo. In almost any other landscape he would stick out like a sore thumb but on here he blends in NCC rankings 1. Parp 2. Confusedalot 3. AUFC90 4. Blaven 5. Jamaldo 9000001. Renton 9000000000000000000001. Ad Lib And yet you've found yourself in the pocket of almost all the YESers on here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 The debate did not go the way I wanted it to. The polls seem to show that. Your point about bad losers is probably an accurate one - but you do come across as gloating and point-scoring whilst making it. The depressing thing for me, is that too many people still think this is about Salmond - or the SNP. You basically state that in the first post I've quoted. Scottish independence has very little to do with Alex Salmond. That's not deflection, or spin, its just the way I (and many other Yes voters) see it. Its about a small nation taking control over its own political affairs - and changing the political direction that we have been subjected to for far too long. it was not my intention to come across as gloating, nor was I intending to point score I do agree the that independence is not all about Salmond, but as I am talking about the build up to the debate and the debate it's self, it was all about the FM, all we heard in the lead up was, what Salmond was going to do to Darling and it did not happen, and in the days after the debate all the SNP and YesScotland did was "spin" the whole thing, you would be naïve to think otherwise -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Are you kidding me, Blaven is one of the worst members of the NCC. The real winner out of the state of affairs, as has been said before, is Jamaldo. In almost any other landscape he would stick out like a sore thumb but on here he blends in NCC rankings 1. Parp 2. Confusedalot 3. AUFC90 4. Blaven 5. Jamaldo 9000001. Renton 9000000000000000000001. Ad Lib Copying I'm Rodger? A new low from Godzookie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 And yet you've found yourself in the pocket of almost all the YESers on here. That's his natural place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Copying I'm Rodger? A new low from Godzookie. Err no I was copy shitestain or whatever he's called. The alias for that poster that got banned for calling the clown collective paedophiles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 And yet you've found yourself in the pocket of almost all the YESers on here. I won't be in anyone's pocket when you're greeting in to your cornflakes on the morning of 19th September. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Err no I was copy shitestain or whatever he's called. The alias for that poster that got banned for calling the clown collective paedophiles. Shitestain = I'm Rodger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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