sjc Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 they had a problem turned round were knocked out by fumes or lack of oxygen and the autopilot kept on that course till fuel ran out....nothing mysterious about it. why not report it first to alert people on the ground? BTW - I'm not suggesting some sort of conspiracy from under a tin foil hat! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Jezza gets in on the act. http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/24/jeremy-clarksons-twitter-doomed-flight-mh370-4676876/ He's quite right though. If it had gone North it would have been spotted by radar. If it had gone South there was nowhere to land. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Which equates to 4 hours flying time after the last radar contact. Were it not for the transponder being switched off and the plane being turned West (IIRC) this would look like a sudden decompression which could mean the plane could fly on autopilot until the fuel ran out. See Helios Air Crash http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522 I understand about the 4 hour flying time/fuel range but I thought sudden decompression was discounted by some experienced pilot who stated that this was unlikely as oxygen would automatically be available? Still wouldn't explain the transponder being switched off..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 why not report it first to alert people on the ground? BTW - I'm not suggesting some sort of conspiracy from under a tin foil hat! The theory is that communications were knocked out in an electrical fire, the pilots set the autopilot in the direction of the nearest suitable airport and conked out. Thought these planes were supposed to be able to land themselves though. Is that a myth to reassure passengers when the pilot's obviously had a few? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 The theory is that communications were knocked out in an electrical fire, the pilots set the autopilot in the direction of the nearest suitable airport and conked out. Thought these planes were supposed to be able to land themselves though. Is that a myth to reassure passengers when the pilot's obviously had a few? I read about that......am sure they said that the transponder & radio wouldn't likely be the first to be knocked out by a fire.........hence would you not report the electrical fire & suggest your proposed course of action. claim and counter claim I suppose...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I understand about the 4 hour flying time/fuel range but I thought sudden decompression was discounted by some experienced pilot who stated that this was unlikely as oxygen would automatically be available? The passengers' oxygen only lasts 15 minutes, not sure about the pilots'. They say rationality goes quickly out the window when you're low on oxygen, so it's possible they didn't even realise what was happening and failed to put on their oxygen supply at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 The passengers' oxygen only lasts 15 minutes, not sure about the pilots'. They say rationality goes quickly out the window when you're low on oxygen, so it's possible they didn't even realise what was happening and failed to put on their oxygen supply at all. These are highly experienced, trained & intelligent pilots we are talking about though....not saying they are infallible (see Air France crash)......but for all the proposed sequence of events to occur without any form of communication seems to defy logic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossHogg Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 why not report it first to alert people on the ground? BTW - I'm not suggesting some sort of conspiracy from under a tin foil hat! they were busy dealing with an emergency? It happens . Communication with the ground isnt always straight forward on a plane its not justca mic switch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 they were busy dealing with an emergency? It happens . Communication with the ground isnt always straight forward on a plane its not justca mic switch. They'd have heard me screaming back in Malaysia. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The ghosts from Pacman did it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossHogg Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Looks like magnitos about to appear! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan09 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Following on from yesterdays news, have celtic not requested that this weeks game against partick is postponed in order to host a candlelight vigil in support of the thai ****? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Having recently been on one o they Boeing 777s I noticed great advancements in aviation technology as they now have tvs on the back o the seats in front instead of one bouncing from the roof 20 feet away above the aisle. So after watching ten minutes of The Hobbit I found a more interesting channel showing the flight path of the aircraft as well as it's speed and altitude. Surely one of these passengers would have thought Martin Freedman was a c**t and could have raised the alarm as they watched the wee yellow line head towards Antartica? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Having recently been on one o they Boeing 777s I noticed great advancements in aviation technology as they now have tvs on the back o the seats in front instead of one bouncing from the roof 20 feet away above the aisle. So after watching ten minutes of The Hobbit I found a more interesting channel showing the flight path of the aircraft as well as it's speed and altitude. Surely one of these passengers would have thought Martin Freedman was a c**t and could have raised the alarm as they watched the wee yellow line head towards Antartica? They'd be watching Benny Hill. They still love old Benny out in China. It's how they would have wanted to go. 500 mph into the Indian Ocean to Benny Hill chasing Jackie Wright and Bob Todd about as the tune blasts out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Good one BA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Good one BA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 So..... They're now searching an area about 700 miles north from where all that debris picked up by satellites was seen. Where had that debris in the southern Indian Ocean come from? Has another plane gone down in that area and not been reported missing yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expatowner Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Maybe the debris floated over from this?: Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26774338 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgertheeuro24witness Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Wreckage=evidence=liability. I know it sounds a bit 'tinfoil hat' but the Malaysian government own the airline and keep dropping red herrings into the mix. Maybe just keen to avoid a diplomatic incident with China regarding the cause of the crash but they haven't covered themselves in glory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wembley 1999 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Well at least we know where Great White's go for a Chinese. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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