The Famous Aberdeen - Season 2022/23

[DukDukGoose]

12 minutes ago, DrewDon said:

He’s been in the job about two weeks. The squad is hopelessly unbalanced and just not very good. 

There will be plenty of time for backslapping and McGhee comparisons next season if we end up bottom six. 

Exactly.

1 minute ago, coprolite said:

I'll stick my neck out and say that we've seen enough to suggest that we're at least not in the same ballpark of total disaster that McGhee was. And Glass will get funded which McGhee didn't. 

 

McGhee was a strange one. He wasn't well funded as JC had wiped the budget and then the club panicked and let him sign shite players on decent wages (Grassi being one). If they'd originally given him that budget to start with then we may have done better.

The McGhee comparisons are wild anyway. We've a manager who wants to be here for a start.

[tarapoa]

8 minutes ago, Merkland Red said:

The McGhee comparisons are wild anyway. We've a manager who wants to be here for a start.

Agree - Ian Cathro is a maybe a better shout.

Only joking - fully behind the new management team and the time to judge properly is well into next season - but the complete capitulation was a worry.  

 

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

It was me who brought up the McGhee comparison. I wasn't comparing Glass with that idiot, I was meaning that there was a similarity in the game yesterday to McGhee's first game in charge against Sigma Olomouc. 

It was the same kind of shambolic nonsense with players starting out of position and looking like they'd never met each other before. 

I believe that Glass will be a better manager for the club than McGhee. Anybody would be. 

[Bogbrush1903]

One thing is for sure is that the pressure is now on Glass. Sunday's result is going to count against him big time if we go on a bad run of form. That why I was surprised that he didn't prioritise Sunday's game over the match against Celtic. However much we hear fans saying that they are prepared to give him time (and rightly so) , the goodwill will dissipate quite rapidly if we go on a poor run of form at the start of next season and the cup tie yesterday will be used as evidence against him. It's also the kind of result for a new manager that has the media vultures circling high above keeping a watching brief.

On a side note, I'm concerned about Allan Russell. It's based on nothing else but a gut feeling although he has been booked in the last two games, but I just didn't like his body language on the few glimpses we saw of him yesterday...

 

[Dons_1988]

I think McGhee is a good example of what happens if you simultaneously de-fund the squad and try and introduce a higher risk way of playing football. 

For all mcinnes’ faults were qualifying for Europe despite being absolutely hopeless for 75% of the season. He was like the government bond investment of Scottish football. Low risk and steady returns.

At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious recruitment is going to be absolutely crucial if this is all going to work out for glass. Yesterday was a prime example of what happens if you set up in a high risk manner, apply absolutely no competence to the performance and you come up against a well drilled, well motivated Scottish Premiership side.

[Bogbrush1903]

14 minutes ago, CCB19035 said:

Everyone shitting the bed because Glass got beat with the worst Aberdeen side since 2012 is laughable. Most the players won't be there, we know that much. 
 

 

At the end of the day, it's a very poor result under the watch of Stephen Glass in a competition that the fans want to win . It will be used against him if required by those who wish to whether media or supporters. The danger is that it's leaving him less room for error. Three more unspectacular results at the end of this season, or a spectacularly bad one, then he'll be going into the start of next season with all eyes on him as the early season favourite  for the chop. And if the players start thinking your vulnerable, then finding good positive  results become problematic.

Edited April 26, 2021 by Bogbrush1903

[coprolite]

1 minute ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

At the end of the day, it's a very poor result in a competition that the fans want to win under the watch of Stephen Glass. It will be used against him if required by those who wish to whether media or supporters. The danger is that it's leaving him less room for error. Three more unspectacular results at the end of this season, or a spectacularly bad one, then he'll be going into the start of next season with all eyes on him as the early season favourite  for the chop. And if the players start thinking your vulnerable, then finding good positive  results become problematic.

I disagree. He's pretty much got a free pass until he has his own signings on the park.

At the moment he's doing what he can with someone else's cast offs. 

[Bogbrush1903]

3 minutes ago, coprolite said:

I disagree. He's pretty much got a free pass until he has his own signings on the park.

At the moment he's doing what he can with someone else's cast offs. 

Hmmm, I've rarely seen any manager get a free pass when results are unfavourable.  I hope he gets time but the circumstances of his arrival (close friendship of Cormack, the removal of a manager favourable to the media and considered to be a success, and no evidence of managerial ability on his CV) means the media will be watching him closely from the off...

[Dons_1988]

He doesn't get a completely free pass and neither he should. I doubt he would even want one. A 3-0 Scottish Cup QF home defeat to a very average side is what it is. Pretty disgraceful.

Perspective and mitigating circumstances obviously required though.

[Alert Mongoose]

I’m obviously going to be accused of a subjective opinion but something about the look of Glass in the dugout yesterday makes me think his appointment is going to be a disastrous one.  Flimsy evidence at best but I wonder if he is going to be the type of studious looking manager that thinks everything will end up ok if I don’t panic.

[coprolite]

5 minutes ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

Hmmm, I've rarely seen any manager get a free pass when results are unfavourable.  I hope he gets time but the circumstances of his arrival (close friendship of Cormack, the removal of a manager favourable to the media and considered to be a success, and no evidence of managerial ability on his CV) means the media will be watching him closely from the off...

To the extent that the press is interested in Aberdeen, you're probably right. I'd hope our fans were a bit more level headed though. 

[Alert Mongoose]

2 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

home defeat to a very average side

We may be in general but to say that about Utd’s performance yesterday does you no favours.

[Alert Mongoose]

2 minutes ago, CCB19035 said:

Players train all week with his principles, he doesn't need to stand at the touch line bawling and shouting to make his point. 

I’d be expecting my manager to attempt to change things in the circumstances though. 

[Dons_1988]

3 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

We may be in general but to say that about Utd’s performance yesterday does you no favours.

I gave United credit in the match thread. You were good.

That being said, it was a home tie against a bottom 6 side. Losing 3-0 (going on 5 or 6) is totally unacceptable and Glass knows that.

Oh and don't be so sensitive.

[coprolite]

22 minutes ago, CCB19035 said:

Hornby on the bench- 0 goals. 
 

Ross on the bench- Experience in the Scottish championship, and a handful of first team appearances for us. 
 

Everyone else bar Lewis, were untested teenagers. 
 

He didn't have great options, but he probably should've changed it, I agree. 

He did have Mcgeough, and Campbell looked like he was shiteing himself from about 15 minutes in.  McLennan was on the teamline too but has been shite recently so probably wouldn't have helped. 

But that's not a lot of options. 

[Alert Mongoose]

34 minutes ago, CCB19035 said:

Hornby on the bench- 0 goals. 
 

Ross on the bench- Experience in the Scottish championship, and a handful of first team appearances for us. 
 

Everyone else bar Lewis, were untested teenagers. 
 

He didn't have great options, but he probably should've changed it, I agree. 

Not a lot of choices on the bench granted but an attempt at changing shape would have helped.  You’d hope someone would have advised him that playing out from the back (without exception) is a failed Yogi Hughes tactic that never works at this level.

[tarapoa]

He did have Mcgeough, and Campbell looked like he was shiteing himself from about 15 minutes in.  McLennan was on the teamline too but has been shite recently so probably wouldn't have helped. 
But that's not a lot of options. 

I thought McGeouch steadied the ship against Celtic when he came on, and would have been an obvious one, as Campbell was struggling badly.
McLennan - yes, he has been dreadful recently - but is fast enough and physical to provide an out-ball. There weren't many options - but watching that first half unfold and doing nothing was also strange.  Considine in his interview suggested they had three chances and took them - no Andy, there was a point some of us were looking at prices for 0-6 and 0-7 such was the dominance. 

[Dons_1988]

3 minutes ago, tarapoa said:

I thought McGeouch steadied the ship against Celtic when he came on, and would have been an obvious one, as Campbell was struggling badly.

McLennan - yes, he has been dreadful yesterday - but is fast enough and physical to provide an out-ball. There weren't many options - but watching that first half unfold and doing nothing was also strange.  Considine in his interview suggested they had three chances and took them - no Andy, there was a point some of us were looking at prices for 0-6 and 0-7 such was the dominance. 

I would absolutely have brought Mcgeough on at HT. I was pretty surprised he did nothing.

 

[DukDukGoose]

2 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said:

It was me who brought up the McGhee comparison. I wasn't comparing Glass with that idiot, I was meaning that there was a similarity in the game yesterday to McGhee's first game in charge against Sigma Olomouc. 

It was the same kind of shambolic nonsense with players starting out of position and looking like they'd never met each other before. 

I believe that Glass will be a better manager for the club than McGhee. Anybody would be. 

Not you. I meant the fans of other clubs on the forum bringing up McGhee and calling it a similar situation.

[coprolite]

1 minute ago, Merkland Red said:

Not you. I meant the fans of other clubs on the forum bringing up McGhee and calling it a similar situation.

There are a lot of similarities in the end of JC's and DM's tenure and both were relatively successful over their time.

Extending the analogy to cover Glass and McGhee is nothing more than wishful thinking on their part. They want us to fail.