tarapoa Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Can't believe I find myself saying this, but really Hayes has been middling to poor this season and no indication that he will improve next one. Squad player at best. I think he was another one of these players who was playing well in a functioning side from Aug-Oct time. His injury that forced him out of the cup semi was a real blow at the time - and borne out by Kennedy's half-hearted attempt to stay with Christie for the opener. He never quite seemed the same once he returned from that injury, which was around the same time as the SFA Covid thing, Watkins/Wright then leaving - and a general disintegration in the team overall. Maybe with a pre-season under his belt, and a fresh start, we can still get another season or two out of him. Edited May 17, 2021 by tarapoa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, tarapoa said: I think he was another one of these players who was playing well in a functioning side from Aug-Oct time. His injury that forced him out of the cup semi was a real blow at the time - and borne out by Kennedy's half-hearted attempt to stay with Christie for the opener. He never quite seemed the same once he returned from that injury, which was around the same time as the SFA Covid thing, Watkins/Wright then leaving - and a general disintegration in the team overall. Maybe with a pre-season under his belt, and a fresh start, we can still get another season or two out of him. I really hope that you could be right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleyQuinn Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 MainStandMoan has spoken: "From what I understand Watford have had 2 bids turned down for Ferguson. They have been given a figure to hit, and if as expected they come back in, I'd expect him to go. Sunderland have only made an enquiry on McCrorie, so that one has been exaggerated. Sunderland have also made an enquiry for Ferguson, but they wont pay the asking price. The JET deal is done, although not formally signed, I'd expect that to go through this week. The club are after 3 strikers, JET is not seen as a first choice every week, more of a different option for different games. I understand the delay is caused by the uncertainty over the availability of Callum Hendry. Alan Russell likes him, and the club would take him, but St Johnstone are holding out for a fee, so that's probably the end of that, allowing the JET deal to be completed. That may be revisited if first and second choice cannot be achieved. There are some exciting names on that list, but as you can imagine there's a lot up in the air. McGinn has been offered a new deal on much reduced money. Devlin too, although it may turn out to be a 'pay as you play' On the subject of Alan Russell the club are less than impressed with his lack of transparency regarding his recent charge. A big emphasis in the statement on the word 'now' A few other things bubbling along, expect some news later this week..................... big 10 days ahead." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lubo_blaha Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Anderson, McGinn, Devlin and Ross have presumably been offered new deals then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Would Tommie Hoban or Greg Leigh do a turn for likes of St. Mirren or you reckon they are leaving to move to bigger? Hoban in particular fits our mould in thaT he's Irish and established at this level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Would Tommie Hoban or Greg Leigh do a turn for likes of St. Mirren or you reckon they are leaving to move to bigger? Hoban in particular fits our mould in thaT he's Irish and established at this level. Both are good players at this level. Depends what you are after. Hoban started well but we probably overplayed him. Wasn't comfortable playing out from the back either. I'd be surprised if he doesn't get a decent enough offer down the road though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Merkland Red said: How I see us shaping up for next season. Would like a new left winger too but I genuinely don't think we're in too bad a shape. If we do get McGrath in and play Hedges out wide then we don't need too much more? Striker is obviously absolutely critical. Hayes, Brown and possibly even big Andy will not be regular starters. Their day has come and gone. Ferguson looks like he's being sold. So from your XI above, only ...Lewis, McCrorie, Gallagher, MacKenzie (maybe), and Hedges would be starters as it stands at this minute. We shouldn't forget Dean Campbell as well. It's not much of a 1st team squad, to be honest.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: Both are good players at this level. Depends what you are after. Hoban started well but we probably overplayed him. Wasn't comfortable playing out from the back either. I'd be surprised if he doesn't get a decent enough offer down the road though. Sounds a bit like Shaughnessy in that regard. Leigh hardly played in his second spell, was that injury? Left back had been a bit of a problem area for us in that Tait isn't a natural LB but has been OK when called on this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 minute ago, djchapsticks said: Sounds a bit like Shaughnessy in that regard. Leigh hardly played in his second spell, was that injury? Left back had been a bit of a problem area for us in that Tait isn't a natural LB but has been OK when called on this season. I think that both Hoban and Leigh would do a decent job with St Mirren. I'm actually surprised that we're letting Hoban go, and Leigh as you say has hardly played. I doubt if they would make St Mirren into a top 3 side, but I don't think either would let you down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Would Tommie Hoban or Greg Leigh do a turn for likes of St. Mirren or you reckon they are leaving to move to bigger? Hoban in particular fits our mould in thaT he's Irish and established at this level.Hoban is a strange one. Looked like one we’d be desperate to keep after his first spell and start of his second spell but like the rest of the team he faded badly. That said, it was his first full season of his career (at the age of 27) and he did contribute to a lot of clean sheets. He’s a good defender but not the quickest and isn’t particularly comfortable playing the ball out as we’ve seen recently. No disrespect to St Mirren but I’d imagine he’ll be looking for a lower championship or higher league one side in England. On the Irish thing, he does have one senior cap and several youth caps but was born in London and was eligible through his grandparents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: Hayes, Brown and possibly even big Andy will not be regular starters. Their day has come and gone. Ferguson looks like he's being sold. So from your XI above, only ...Lewis, McCrorie, Gallagher, MacKenzie (maybe), and Hedges would be starters as it stands at this minute. We shouldn't forget Dean Campbell as well. It's not much of a 1st team squad, to be honest.... Then we can replace them with other players. Selling Ferguson to fund a rebuild would be a no brainer in that case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, lubo_blaha said: No disrespect to St Mirren but I’d imagine he’ll be looking for a lower championship or higher league one side in England. On the Irish thing, he does have one senior cap and several youth caps but was born in London and was eligible through his grandparents. Nah none taken, that's the market we live in...we did the exact same thing with Shaughnessy when St. Johnstone released him. Came straight in for him and he understandably wanted to keep his options open down south and it was a further year before he joined up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, djchapsticks said: Hoban in particular fits our mould in thaT he's Irish *celticshopatstmirrenpark.gif* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illgresi Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 If we can sell Ferguson for £4m or so, and bring in Allan Campbell as a replacement for a tuition fee of say £500k, that would be excellent business imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Illgresi said: If we can sell Ferguson for £4m or so, and bring in Allan Campbell as a replacement for a tuition fee of say £500k, that would be excellent business imo. Sounds good. Would be doing well to achieve this. McKenna not go for less? And he is a full international. Turnbull went for less and he’s a far better player. Maybe though as the money in the EPL is still crazy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said: Hayes, Brown and possibly even big Andy will not be regular starters. Their day has come and gone. Ferguson looks like he's being sold. So from your XI above, only ...Lewis, McCrorie, Gallagher, MacKenzie (maybe), and Hedges would be starters as it stands at this minute. We shouldn't forget Dean Campbell as well. It's not much of a 1st team squad, to be honest.... I would expect Brown to be a first name on the teamsheet. I doubt he would have come here without assurances that he would get a lot of game time and Glass clearly rates him extremely highly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 I must have watched a different Greg Leigh to other people on here. Really poor footballer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, lubo_blaha said: Anderson, McGinn, Devlin and Ross have presumably been offered new deals then. Is Anderson likely to play? I imagine you've offered a deal just to entitle you to compensation in case another club comes in 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d31 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, DrewDon said: I must have watched a different Greg Leigh to other people on here. Really poor footballer. I thought he was ok in his first spell. This season deary me. Bad bad bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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