Frank Grimes Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) I wonder what the year will be when Aberdeen fans will stop talking about McInnes I still remember Alex Smith being talked about well into the 2000’s so we probably have a fair bit to go Edited April 25, 2022 by Frank Grimes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Watching Sportscene last night and there was a reminder of that important attribute in any top flight squad in our league - the EPL loanee. Whether we like it or not, that is a modern reality, and the importance of signing dudes and not duds. We have clearly benefited in the past, but when you watch Levitt and Simms and then think Longstaff and Samuels, then another reason can be ticked off at why this season has been such a monumental failure. Thankfully JG's main one was Ronan. His goals are probably a significant part of the reason he's now our manager. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 54 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: I wonder what the year will be when Aberdeen fans will stop talking about McInnes I still remember Alex Smith being talked about well into the 2000’s so we probably have a fair bit to go I'm still talking about Tommy Pearson, ffs... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, tarapoa said: Watching Sportscene last night and there was a reminder of that important attribute in any top flight squad in our league - the EPL loanee. Whether we like it or not, that is a modern reality, and the importance of signing dudes and not duds. We have clearly benefited in the past, but when you watch Levitt and Simms and then think Longstaff and Samuels, then another reason can be ticked off at why this season has been such a monumental failure. Thankfully JG's main one was Ronan. His goals are probably a significant part of the reason he's now our manager. This is quite an odd post to me. I don’t think any successful premiership squad has to have a good EPL loanee. Other than Maddison/ward have we really had much success with them in the past or been key to us? By all means utilise the market if it makes sense but longstaff should be a good reminder that they really aren’t the be all and end all. The key for any team is just more broadly to get recruitment right. Ours has just been abysmal from pretty much every market we’ve looked in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: This is quite an odd post to me. I don’t think any successful premiership squad has to have a good EPL loanee. Other than Maddison/ward have we really had much success with them in the past or been key to us? By all means utilise the market if it makes sense but longstaff should be a good reminder that they really aren’t the be all and end all. The key for any team is just more broadly to get recruitment right. Ours has just been abysmal from pretty much every market we’ve looked in. Thanks - I like odd posts. Michael Hector would be another example of where it worked well. I know we don't necessarily have to go down this route, but if we don't, others will. If you get it right, it can be a win-win in terms of having a level of quality you'd never otherwise have, and the club down south benefits from the player getting game time in a league ranked in UEFA's top dozen (apparently). Hearts seem to have this hotline to massive strikers who are effective in this league - and the guy Simms has clearly made a telling contribution there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A96 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said: This is quite an odd post to me. I don’t think any successful premiership squad has to have a good EPL loanee. Other than Maddison/ward have we really had much success with them in the past or been key to us? By all means utilise the market if it makes sense but longstaff should be a good reminder that they really aren’t the be all and end all. The key for any team is just more broadly to get recruitment right. Ours has just been abysmal from pretty much every market we’ve looked in. Logan and Reynolds were both with with us on loan initially , and both became very good and important players for us , although Reynolds wasn’t really an unknown quantity compared to most loanees from England. I know they weren’t EPL players , but then neither was Maddison (I think). Debateable as well as to whether his spell with us was much of a success. A great individual talent , obviously but not a team player at that time. We became a vastly improved team that season more or less as soon as Maddison was dropped a few games before his loan period finished. Actually incredible to think how good a team we had that we were better without Maddison. Eye bleeding , negative football indeed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 It's funny to see some pining for McInnes when most of the players we've decided are the problem were his signings. Gallagher (allegedly), Hayes, Lewis, McGeouch, Kennedy and McLennan have either let the side down too often or been a waste of a wage. Rather than looking to get some young prospects signed, we'd be looking to the English lower Leagues again. Derek's gone, move on. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbrush1903 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 11 hours ago, 10menwent2mow said: This, 'Lisbon were there for the taking' idea, is absolute fucking nonsense. They went on to win their first Portuguese title in nearly 20 years, losing only one league game out of 34, but aye, Aberdeen should've won there. If losing to Sporting was a failure for McInnes, what were people really expecting? They were there for the taking as much as Sporting in Lisbon will ever be there for the taking for Aberdeen. We sat in when slightly more adventurous and aggressive tactics might have gave Sporting something to think about. As it was, we limped out of Europe. I'm not using this match as stick to beat McInnes (although it was another example of a far too negative approach during his final season)with but someone mentioned Stavanger which triggered my memories about Sporting. I did use the word abysmal which was too far and which I now retract. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 We used to have a decent record with loan players. Maddison, Ward, Hector, Lowe, Vyner, Logan, Church and Christie all added something at least.Just about every one we’ve had since covid have been poor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Our angry twitter brigade have 'moved on' to a new target now it seems. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8756396/aberdeen-goodwin-sectarian-abuse-dons-fan-******/ Interesting that the weegia tabloid in question choose to use one random post, likely from some wee plooky bare-ankled type lacking in braincells, as a reason to cite that sectarianism isn't just a west coast problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highland_mechanic Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, tarapoa said: Our angry twitter brigade have 'moved on' to a new target now it seems. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8756396/aberdeen-goodwin-sectarian-abuse-dons-fan-******/ Interesting that the weegia tabloid in question choose to use one random post, likely from some wee plooky bare-ankled type lacking in braincells, as a reason to cite that sectarianism isn't just a west coast problem. Sadly there is plenty of wallopers in our support. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 2 hours ago, tarapoa said: Our angry twitter brigade have 'moved on' to a new target now it seems. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8756396/aberdeen-goodwin-sectarian-abuse-dons-fan-******/ Interesting that the weegia tabloid in question choose to use one random post, likely from some wee plooky bare-ankled type lacking in braincells, as a reason to cite that sectarianism isn't just a west coast problem. It is true that sectarianism isn't just a west coast problem. It's just that there are fewer practising sectarianists (not sure of the correct word- "c***s" seems insufficient) in the North East and they're shunned by polite society, rather than having the roads closed for them. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Frank Grimes said: I wonder what the year will be when Aberdeen fans will stop talking about McInnes I still remember Alex Smith being talked about well into the 2000’s so we probably have a fair bit to go Wont be next season anyway, going to be fun when you play Killie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Wont be next season anyway, going to be fun when you play Killie. If we play Killie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Merkland Red said: It's funny to see some pining for McInnes when most of the players we've decided are the problem were his signings. Gallagher (allegedly), Hayes, Lewis, McGeouch, Kennedy and McLennan have either let the side down too often or been a waste of a wage. Rather than looking to get some young prospects signed, we'd be looking to the English lower Leagues again. Derek's gone, move on. Hayes is a problem this season? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Hayes is a problem this season? Hayes hasn't had a good season at left back, bar the odd game. Looked good when played further forward but that has been a rare occurrence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 10 hours ago, tarapoa said: Thanks - I like odd posts. Michael Hector would be another example of where it worked well. I know we don't necessarily have to go down this route, but if we don't, others will. If you get it right, it can be a win-win in terms of having a level of quality you'd never otherwise have, and the club down south benefits from the player getting game time in a league ranked in UEFA's top dozen (apparently). Hearts seem to have this hotline to massive strikers who are effective in this league - and the guy Simms has clearly made a telling contribution there. If we signed the lad Simms instead of Hearts we’d be looking at potential Euro opponents right now, and Glass might even still be in a job. Our problems are vast, but the margins are very small given how tight the league was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: Hayes hasn't had a good season at left back, bar the odd game. Looked good when played further forward but that has been a rare occurrence. Hayes has, overall, been decent this season, and certainly not one of our problems. Certainly wasn’t the case last season, I’ll agree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highland_mechanic Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, anotherchance said: If we signed the lad Simms instead of Hearts we’d be looking at potential Euro opponents right now, and Glass might even still be in a job. Our problems are vast, but the margins are very small given how tight the league was. Simms wouldn't have had anything like the same impact at Aberdeen as he has had at Hearts. Our whole team has been ineffective or underperformed whereas Hearts have had players performing to a fairly high standard right through their team 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Hayes has, overall, been decent this season, and certainly not one of our problems. Certainly wasn’t the case last season, I’ll agree. Oh Hayes hadn't previously been a fantastic player for the Dons then he'd get a raw deal, Joey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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