The Famous Aberdeen - Season 2022/23

[Bogbrush1903]

53 minutes ago, betting competition said:

Trying to be positive after last night and the only thing I can take from Goodwin bad start is that McInnes only won 1 in 5 games.

Goodwin will need to have a very good summer transfer window because if it goes pear-shaped then I don't think he'll see the January one. Furthermore, we don't really have a good solid core of a team here already so he needs to build that core with his share of the transfer fund kitty off the Ramsey & Ferguson transfers.

Although we're prepared to write off the end of this season at the moment, these hapless, uninspiring opening matches of his managerial reign will count against him if things are still going wrong come October.

I would say, in boxing parlance, he's on the ropes at the moment and, if I'm being honest, I suspect Jim Goodwin will not be Aberdeen manager in twelve months time.

I think it's just too big a job to do in to little time before patience runs out.

Goodwin took over a mess; however, I think he should've aimed for consolidation of the club's and his own position first. He's been brave or foolhardy with his decisions so far.

I think it would've been prudent to try a gradual revolution, offer hope to the existing players in the squad whether you wanted them or not, and try to squeeze every last bit of effort and application out of the squad until you could replace unwanted players.

I don't think you can just ignore what's happened so far just because he didn't sign any of the players.

 

 

 

Edited May 12, 2022 by Bogbrush1903

[Rodhull]

3 minutes ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

Goodwin will need to have a very good summer transfer window because if it goes pear-shaped then I don't think he'll see the January one. Furthermore, we don't really have a good solid core of a team here already so he needs to build that core with his transfer kitty of the Ramsey & Ferguson transfers.

Although we're prepared to write off the end of this season at the moment, these hapless, uninspiring opening matches of his managerial reign will count against him if things are still going wrong come October.

I would say, in boxing parlance, he's on the ropes at the moment and, if I'm being honest, I suspect Jim Goodwin will not be Aberdeen manager in twelve months time.

I think it's just too big a job to do in to little time before patience runs out.

Goodwin took over a mess; however, I think he should've aimed for consolidation of the club's and his own position first. He's been brave or foolhardy with his decisions so far.

I think it would've been prudent to try a gradual revolution, offer hope to the existing players in the squad whether you wanted them or not, and try to squeeze every last bit of effort and application out of the squad until you could replace unwanted players.

I don't think you can just ignore what's happened so far just because he didn't sign any of the players.

 

 

 

Can't really argue with that. Don't think anyone's ignoring what is happening but there's not much change to be expected right now as obviously the club isn't going to sack Goodwin this quick and even the most pissed off fan at the moment is likely to still give him the chance to recruit first before going after him.

Like you say if things don't start well next season or at the very least give indications of progress being made it could get uncomfortable for him fairly quick.

[DukDukGoose]

1 hour ago, Rodhull said:

Can't really argue with that. Don't think anyone's ignoring what is happening but there's not much change to be expected right now as obviously the club isn't going to sack Goodwin this quick and even the most pissed off fan at the moment is likely to still give him the chance to recruit first before going after him.

Like you say if things don't start well next season or at the very least give indications of progress being made it could get uncomfortable for him fairly quick.

The only real positive to playing in the league cup groups is that it gives him a chance to get his shit sorted early. Especially as it's against lower league teams. McInnes and Glass had to play decent European teams whilst trying to sort their rebuild.

[big al]

4 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

Goodwin will need to have a very good summer transfer window because if it goes pear-shaped then I don't think he'll see the January one. Furthermore, we don't really have a good solid core of a team here already so he needs to build that core with his share of the transfer fund kitty off the Ramsey & Ferguson transfers.

Although we're prepared to write off the end of this season at the moment, these hapless, uninspiring opening matches of his managerial reign will count against him if things are still going wrong come October.

I would say, in boxing parlance, he's on the ropes at the moment and, if I'm being honest, I suspect Jim Goodwin will not be Aberdeen manager in twelve months time.

I think it's just too big a job to do in to little time before patience runs out.

Goodwin took over a mess; however, I think he should've aimed for consolidation of the club's and his own position first. He's been brave or foolhardy with his decisions so far.

I think it would've been prudent to try a gradual revolution, offer hope to the existing players in the squad whether you wanted them or not, and try to squeeze every last bit of effort and application out of the squad until you could replace unwanted players.

I don't think you can just ignore what's happened so far just because he didn't sign any of the players.

 

 

 

Very fair comments.

He’s been a bit disrespectful to the paying fans, basically saying that this season doesn’t matter at all how hopeless we are. Releasing players left right and centre. 
He may get a few of the signings right but he definitely won’t get the majority in as great signings in the volume he’s going to have to sign now. 
Not quite sure what to make of him yet but he’s gambled already for sure.

[Rodhull]

 

 

 

[resk]

6 hours ago, coprolite said:

I missed that bit. Antigravity football i guess. 

I suppose Pittodrie does lack atmosphere at times...

I'll get my spacesuit.  

[Suspect Device]

Just to rub some salt in the wounds of this season.

 

 

Edited May 13, 2022 by Suspect Device

[O_Kahn]

16 hours ago, big al said:

Very fair comments.

He’s been a bit disrespectful to the paying fans, basically saying that this season doesn’t matter at all how hopeless we are. Releasing players left right and centre. 
He may get a few of the signings right but he definitely won’t get the majority in as great signings in the volume he’s going to have to sign now. 
Not quite sure what to make of him yet but he’s gambled already for sure.

 

Where did he say words to that effect?

In terms of releasing players - you could argue about Turner and Considine departure, but the rest surely needed to go.

I would say the one aspect of the job he has got right so far are his comments before and after games - in the post-match at St Johnstone he summed it all up pretty well, and took his own share of responsibility.

 

Edited May 13, 2022 by O_Kahn

[starryfish]

17 hours ago, Rodhull said:

 

 

 

If he was able to pass on even a fraction of his ability to future Dons players then what a difference that would make to them

[Rodhull]

Just now, starryfish said:

If he was able to pass on even a fraction of his ability to future Dons players then what a difference that would make to them

Pity he didn't pass it on to his sons as well.

[coprolite]

43 minutes ago, starryfish said:

If he was able to pass on even a fraction of his ability to future Dons players then what a difference that would make to them

Not his work ethic though

[logie skid boys]

Ah Jazzer never broke sweat didn’t have to .

. Oh that goal love street .one best bounces ever . Ah f**k we thought we were going do it . 
In my top 5 fav  Dons players  ever , without a doubt . 

[tarapoa]

Not his work ethic though

He had the skill and vision to let the ball do the work.

Some of our football around that era was a joy to watch, with Bett often the one dictating play.

Many dandies at the time would still have a go and use the lazy, workshy label at him. I suppose McGinn also got that over more recent years, but again more talent in his wee toe then many others around him, and probably would have been nowhere near us if he had an ‘engine’ to match his technical ability.

Still, we do sometimes need to have a whinge even about the positives of our club - I would still be reluctant to play Ramsay in some games as he’s so unreliable defensively, but still realise the lad has got it and will almost certainly be a top player in time.

[coprolite]

8 minutes ago, tarapoa said:

He had the skill and vision to let the ball do the work.

Some of our football around that era was a joy to watch, with Bett often the one dictating play.

Many dandies at the time would still have a go and use the lazy, workshy label at him. I suppose McGinn also got that over more recent years, but again more talent in his wee toe then many others around him, and probably would have been nowhere near us if he had an ‘engine’ to match his technical ability.

Still, we do sometimes need to have a whinge even about the positives of our club - I would still be reluctant to play Ramsay in some games as he’s so unreliable defensively, but still realise the lad has got it and will almost certainly be a top player in time.

To be honest I based that jibe entirely on what the mannies around me used to grumble about. I was probably not even in my teens when Bett left and only really appreciated players running with the ball or scoring goals. Still, I’m not one to let fairness or accuracy stand in the way of a good dig.

[naegoodinthedark]

32 minutes ago, logie skid boys said:

Ah Jazzer never broke sweat didn’t have to .

. Oh that goal love street .one best bounces ever . Ah f**k we thought we were going do it . 
In my top 5 fav  Dons players  ever , without a doubt . 

Wonderful, wonderful player. 
 

Probably deserves it’s own thread, but who else is in your top 5?

[Game of throw-ins]

I'm not sure I would call Bett lazy, but he was an odd character.  Usually you won't make it as a pro footballer without a lot of drive.  Bett was one of the exceptions that proved the rule.  Very gifted but played professional football because it was the easiest way for him to make a good living.  You always thought he could take it or leave it.  If he'd had the drive he wouldn't have been playing for us - could have played at the top level in Italy or Spain.  He just wasn't that bothered.

[logie skid boys]

2 hours ago, naegoodinthedark said:

Wonderful, wonderful player. 
 

Probably deserves it’s own thread, but who else is in your top 5?

Well my other 4 would be ,who  I have watched and loved 

Willie  Greatest ever  (No nae Garner ) 

Jess ( for that early spell in his career he was outstanding .

Mcdougal  (seen Harper and Archibald play) but Frankie was  the man for me .

Derek Hamilton    for that winner ,   magic  memory with my da celebrating that is so clear even now . ( think he ended up homeless ,Derek that is nae my da ) 

so add in Jazzer that’s my top 5 favs .

 

 

 

[highland_mechanic]

Oh how I would love for us to have a midfielder like Bett in our current team.

Always thought he and Robert Connor were needlessly criticised by some Aberdeen fans.

Back to today and rumours we are interested in Swedish international keeper Oscar Linner.

[Rodhull]

Can't say I've heard of him but looks like he's barely played since 2019 and his international experience consists of 45 mins in a friendly. I think Sweden have capped quite a few diddies in recent years. This might be their Bertie Vogts era equivalent.

[betting competition]

Andy Considine RedTV appearance about his career is very special (last over 70 minutes).