The Famous Aberdeen - Season 2022/23

[ropy]

1 hour ago, Thenorthernlight said:

I see the SFA have effectively admitted we were screwed by yet another incompetent refereeing performance on Saturday

Penalty to us, almost certainly 1-0 up against 10 men for over half the game.

How many times have we been done in by these inept w@nkers? 

And yes, I know we’ve been fucking shite most of the season. 
 

No penalty but the rest of the game would have been against 10 men.

[kingjoey]

4 hours ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

That is not the relevant law at all. But you are right that there is no specific offence of obstruction but obstruction is covered in a catch all of "prevents".

Indirect free kick

An indirect free kick is awarded if a player:

• prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from the hands or kicks or attempts to kick the ball when the goalkeeper is in the process of releasing it

 

 A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when:

• the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
• holding the ball in the outstretched open hand
• bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air

A goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of the ball with the hand(s).

To be fair, the keeper only had one hand on the ball as his other one was in Besuijen’s face. Penalty and red card. No foul had been given when the hand went into the face so the ball was in play.

[Bogbrush1903]

I hope the players aren't feeling sorry for themselves like some in this thread seem to be.

We need three points on Saturday and forget about whatever else has happened this season.

They just need to focus on the three points.

[highland_mechanic]

6 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

I hope the players aren't feeling sorry for themselves like some in this thread seem to be.

We need three points on Saturday and forget about whatever else has happened this season.

They just need to focus on the three points.

I think some of the players really don't care as they are on their way out in the summer.

[DukDukGoose]

13 hours ago, Thenorthernlight said:

Looking in from the outside, Hearts have recruited very well generally.
Very few failures.

 

 

Really?

[TheScarf]

Ramsey gets writers YPOTY. Fully deserved imo.

[kingjoey]

8 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

Ramsey gets writers YPOTY. Fully deserved imo.

I really like Calvin Ramsay, but in reality he only played really well up until he was injured in the latter stages of last year. 

[logie skid boys]

Ramsay must be shocked with picking this up. Odd brilliant glimpses earlier season but was also getting caught out too many times . and apart from Dens couple weeks ago ,has offered us nothing since he came back.   Looks like he’s got club tied up since Ojo is keeping him out the side. Well this announcement will help our fee . 

Edited April 27, 2022 by logie skid boys

[craigkillie]

To be fair, the keeper only had one hand on the ball as his other one was in Besuijen’s face. Penalty and red card. No foul had been given when the hand went into the face so the ball was in play.

No foul had been given because the referee was playing advantage due to the keeper still having the ball in his hand. As soon as Besuijen steps across Stryjek to prevent him releasing the ball, that is a foul. The ref only has to stop play once Stryjek also commits an offence, which is exactly what happened in the game.

The only mistake was giving Stryjek a yellow rather than a red.

[tarapoa]

Decent article - I am actually going to this "masochists' dinner" they refer for the first time in 8 years (when we did actually have a lot of candidates for PotY, with Reynolds deservedly winning it).

If that huffy American wins the award, I will be hurling food at the stage.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8c8ce4da-c59b-11ec-8d56-59df2b65dd57?shareToken=d6823c86fe0a5615a16b0509e85fd5cb

[lubo_blaha]

Ramsay must be shocked with picking this up. Odd brilliant glimpses earlier season but was also getting caught out too many times . and apart from Dens couple weeks ago ,has offered us nothing since he came back.   Looks like he’s got club tied up since Ojo is keeping him out the side. Well this announcement will help our fee . 

He was the best candidate amongst the nominees to be fair.

[coprolite]

On 25/04/2022 at 22:33, AJF said:

Maybe if you had the likes of Gordon, Kingsley, Halkett, Souttar and McKay to go along with him you would.

Gordon and Kingsley are better than what we have but

Halkett isn't obviously better than Gallagher 

Souttar isn't obviously better than McCrorie 

McKay isn't obviously very good at all. 

 

Arguably they have slightly better players than us but the difference in quality is fairly insignificant. The difference is mainly that they're well drilled and play as a team, with purpose. 

[VincentGuerin]

16 hours ago, AndyM said:

The difference this season for Hearts has been Craig Gordon. The guy is an 8/10 every week, makes unbelieveable saves and for me he is the reason Hearts are above the rest of the clubs sitting 4-10. Soutar is a good player but the rest are either walking injuries or average players who have had the odd good game. Last time I saw Hearts with him not playing, they lost 2-1 at St Johnstone.

Fair play to you if you think Craig Gordon has swung us a 19-point gap.

Hearts are a side with flaws, but they're clearly miles better than anyone else outwith the OF. Indeed, the table says Hearts are as much better than the pack as the OF are than Hearts. You don't end up more than six wins better than everyone else and in a cup final just because you've got a good keeper.

I see a fair bit of moaning on this thread about refereeing decisions. These things happen to all clubs, and Hearts have had major injury worries all season, but just keep rolling along.

[VincentGuerin]

6 minutes ago, coprolite said:

Gordon and Kingsley are better than what we have but

Halkett isn't obviously better than Gallagher 

Souttar isn't obviously better than McCrorie 

McKay isn't obviously very good at all. 

 

Arguably they have slightly better players than us but the difference in quality is fairly insignificant. The difference is mainly that they're well drilled and play as a team, with purpose. 

You shouldn't be allowed to watch fitba.

Fucking hell.

[starryfish]

58 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

No foul had been given because the referee was playing advantage due to the keeper still having the ball in his hand. As soon as Besuijen steps across Stryjek to prevent him releasing the ball, that is a foul. The ref only has to stop play once Stryjek also commits an offence, which is exactly what happened in the game.

The only mistake was giving Stryjek a yellow rather than a red.

Could it have been a penalty to Aberdeen?

[coprolite]

16 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said:

You shouldn't be allowed to watch fitba.

Fucking hell.

I'd say Souttar is arguably better than McCrorie but not obviously. 

I've not seen as much of McKay as i guess you have but didn't see anything about him to merit a special  mention against us and in the SC semi all he did was some unsporting rolling about to try to get a young hibs player sent off. I guess i've missed all his good stuff. 

[AndyM]

59 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said:

Fair play to you if you think Craig Gordon has swung us a 19-point gap.

Hearts are a side with flaws, but they're clearly miles better than anyone else outwith the OF. Indeed, the table says Hearts are as much better than the pack as the OF are than Hearts. You don't end up more than six wins better than everyone else and in a cup final just because you've got a good keeper.

I see a fair bit of moaning on this thread about refereeing decisions. These things happen to all clubs, and Hearts have had major injury worries all season, but just keep rolling along.

I'd say he's certainly swung you at least double figures in points. Andy Goram did that for Hibs when I was watching them in my teens. Allan McGregor has done that for Rangers in the last couple of years.

[HunterAFC]

1 hour ago, VincentGuerin said:

Fair play to you if you think Craig Gordon has swung us a 19-point gap.

Gordon has faced 150 shots on target and conceded 33 goals, saved 119.

Lewis has faced 75 shots on target and conceded 35, saved 45. (The save stats must include some shots that were off target)

It's not all the keeper as the chances created against Aberdeen have likely been better (Bates likes to bring the ball under control and roll it to a striker on the penalty spot for example).

I think Aberdeen have the highest number of points from a losing position (because we always seem to concede first), but have a misfiring forward line so rarely turn 1 point into 3.

Edited April 27, 2022 by HunterAFC

[craigkillie]

56 minutes ago, starryfish said:

Could it have been a penalty to Aberdeen?

Not really, given that the first foul was by the Aberdeen player.

[starryfish]

43 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

Not really, given that the first foul was by the Aberdeen player.

Even though the ball was still in play? I really need to educate myself on the rules