coprolite Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, SamuraiJock said: Surely if Morgan on loan is the best option available in this window then it is worth doing? Of course you'd rather have the same player on a permanent deal, but that doesn't mean any such player is realistically available right now. Having to drop Christie for all the Celtic games wasn't ideal, but the real problem was that nobody stepped up in his absence. I'd hope we could get more out of the youngsters who could step-in now for any games Morgan misses. 2 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said: I'll respectfully disagree. Realistically our best chance of winning a trophy this season is the Scottish cup (if we can get past Stenhousemuir). To win the cup, there's a fair chance that at some point we'll have to beat Celtic.....a game that Morgan couldn't play in anyway. I can't for a moment think what benefit there is for Aberdeen in helping to develop another Celtic youngster. There would be a benefit in the short term but there is also an opportunity cost. Maybe (i know, balls etc) if we had been forced to give Stewart a more extended run he would have got up to pace quicker and signed up again in august. Maybe Wright or Mclennan would have stepped up. Maybe we could have signed a random on a permanent for the same wage and got a transfer fee and been no worse off. I wouldn't want Morgan ahead of Mclennan or Wright unless we own his registration. It's silly to say there would be no benefit though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I'll respectfully disagree. Realistically our best chance of winning a trophy this season is the Scottish cup (if we can get past Stenhousemuir). To win the cup, there's a fair chance that at some point we'll have to beat Celtic.....a game that Morgan couldn't play in anyway. I can't for a moment think what benefit there is for Aberdeen in helping to develop another Celtic youngster. I find your opinion and other similar opinions quite baffling tbh. Morgan/ Christie or other loanees if good enough could be the difference between finishing 2 or 3 places higher in the league. You could be looking at £500k to £1m extra revenue from having that type of player at zero risk to the club. I also notice a lot of Dons fans wanting their own young players sent out for experience. Should the smaller clubs in the league just refuse to take your players because they will go back to Aberdeen more experienced? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_don Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I don’t think Aberdeen fans are advocating sending youngsters out to other teams in the league. But other teams outside the league, that we would only possibly face in a cup then fair enough. Out of interest - Why are ‘t Celtic giving Morgan game time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, RussellAnderson said: I’d rather play McLennan than Morgan. This 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCDannyFTH Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 £200k transfer fee and a £75k payoff for Forrester. Pretty woeful business by the club, apparently the majority of it was AberDNA money. Could be worse though, it’s not like we just paid £15m for a striker to disappear into the sea... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Is Morgan even any good? I genuinely can't remember seeing him play at all for Celtic this season. Wiki seems to think he has 16 appearances but how many of them have been competitive starts? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Merkland Red said: Very surprised to see Stewart getting hassle from here, from guys who weren't at the game on Saturday no less. He was one of the bright sparks in an otherwise unremarkable performance. His touch into Shinnie for Lowes goal was great. Can't see May giving us that. Constantly able to hold off the defender and turn them as well. If there is any blame for Cosgrove being isolated then that is on GMS and McGinn both sitting miles away from him. I said as much when GMS was injured and was told he has been our player of the year so far. Individually he performed, but we've looked so much better as a team without him. It's no coincidence that GMS is back and Cosgrove looks like the same player we saw from August to November. While it can’t all be blamed on GMS, you do make some good points. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I find your opinion and other similar opinions quite baffling tbh. Morgan/ Christie or other loanees if good enough could be the difference between finishing 2 or 3 places higher in the league. You could be looking at £500k to £1m extra revenue from having that type of player at zero risk to the club. I also notice a lot of Dons fans wanting their own young players sent out for experience. Should the smaller clubs in the league just refuse to take your players because they will go back to Aberdeen more experienced? I’m not THAT against the Morgan loan although id rather we didn’t. Not sure though why it’s difficult to understand that we’d rather source a player of similar quality that can help us against Celtic. Under McInnes it is basically Celtic that have stood between us and trophies on multiple occasions. The Christie loan wasn’t so bad first time round as Celtic were about 50 points clear of everyone and it wasn’t as much of an issue (although we did suffer in the SC final). We have a decent squad capable of competing for 2nd, any improvements should be steps taken towards overcoming Celtic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellAnderson Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I find your opinion and other similar opinions quite baffling tbh. Morgan/ Christie or other loanees if good enough could be the difference between finishing 2 or 3 places higher in the league. You could be looking at £500k to £1m extra revenue from having that type of player at zero risk to the club. I also notice a lot of Dons fans wanting their own young players sent out for experience. Should the smaller clubs in the league just refuse to take your players because they will go back to Aberdeen more experienced? I don’t want to take Celtic loanees because we are in direct competition with you, if not for the league, certainly for the cups. Christie not being eligible for the most important game of the 2016/17 season was annoying. Christie scoring in the League Cup Final hurt me. As said by others, we could have played another player in that position. Stewart could have played through the middle, McLennan could be a year ahead in his development, Christie could have been sitting on his arse doing nothing at all. We shouldn’t be doing Celtic any favours. Respectfully, Morgan, Rodgers, Celtic and you can f**k off. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Why would we be paying Forrester a payoff when he requested the termination himself? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellAnderson Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Why would we be paying Forrester a payoff when he requested the termination himself?We’ll have come to some sort of arrangement. It won’t be the full contract but I think there’ll be some sort of payoff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logie skid boys Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Rodhull said: Why would we be paying Forrester a payoff when he requested the termination himself? Aye i would imagine it be a vey small payoff if any . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Shame about Forrester. Quite clearly had something in the past but seems to have done fairly significant issues.Not a massive amount the club can do about it but a six figure hit is a sore one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, RussellAnderson said: We’ll have come to some sort of arrangement. It won’t be the full contract but I think there’ll be some sort of payoff. I dunno, the way most of the press are saying he asked to go for the family issues and is being lined up by Irish sides so I can't see why the club would give him more money on the way out when they've already basically waived a transfer fee and written off the money spent just a few months ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Tartantony said: I find your opinion and other similar opinions quite baffling tbh. Morgan/ Christie or other loanees if good enough could be the difference between finishing 2 or 3 places higher in the league. You could be looking at £500k to £1m extra revenue from having that type of player at zero risk to the club. I also notice a lot of Dons fans wanting their own young players sent out for experience. Should the smaller clubs in the league just refuse to take your players because they will go back to Aberdeen more experienced? I think others have explained the simplicity of this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 11 hours ago, KTID26 said: Maybe if your manager wasn't so tactically inept you would be able to get the best out of Greg Stewart. What is our tactically inept manager’s record against the tactical genius that is Steve Clarke? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrebleTwenty Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 hours ago, kingjoey said: That is uncalled for. We’ve no idea if his sister had a long term illness prior to passing away in November, or if there is anything else in the background. I wish him well. Why is it uncalled for? She may well of had a long term illness? Since she was a private in the army, i doubt that very much. I'm just stating the fact that he was shite, and a waste for 200k we spunked on him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d31 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 It was a sudden death. He was also living away from his daughter and partner. Circumstances that don't help when you are struggling to get up to the pace and demands of Scottish Football/AFC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Why is it uncalled for? She may well of had a long term illness? Since she was a private in the army, i doubt that very much. I'm just stating the fact that he was shite, and a waste for 200k we spunked on him. Privates in the army are immune from suffering mental health issues of course.I don’t think it’s a fact that he was shite at all. There was a player there at some point in the not too distant past, and unfortunate circumstances contributed to us being unable to unearth his talent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 13 hours ago, Jmothecat2 said: Is Morgan even any good? I genuinely can't remember seeing him play at all for Celtic this season. Wiki seems to think he has 16 appearances but how many of them have been competitive starts? Morgan was absolutely brilliant for Saint Mirren last season and was a joy to watch even as a fan of the team he was routinely shagging inside out most weeks. Not as quick as Hayes but a good dribbler, decent pace and a nice cross on him. Can strike a decent set piece as well. 10 hours ago, TrebleTwenty said: Why is it uncalled for? She may well of had a long term illness? Since she was a private in the army, i doubt that very much. I'm just stating the fact that he was shite, and a waste for 200k we spunked on him. You should give motivational speeches. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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