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Plenty of space to build a stand like this across the length of the Derry, 4000 capacity easy. Segregate it at the halfway line with one side entering from the current Dens Road entrance and the other from the Provie Road entrance. Means we could give the 2000 to away fans and chase the Weegie dollar when they visit.

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okay I've read the last 6 or 7 pages, looked at the accounts link, and think that it's too soon to say the finances aren't sustainable. Owing a lot to shareholders is not unique to Dundee FC.

But I'd hope that the first and second years in the Premier League (and beyond) would show progress towards not making a loss, and indeed reducing the £3.2m debt.

Moving house seems a bit fantastic and risky but weighing up the risks is complicated when the club doesn't own Dens. Improving Dens but maintaining its character might be more affordable but less long-term secure. You'd need detailed and well-informed costings to decide on that, with probably still lots of best-guess estimates rather than guarantees.

And Rory Loy is a cause for Perth/Falkirk-related schadenfreude.

That is my summary of findings so far. Let me know if I missed anything.

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okay I've read the last 6 or 7 pages, looked at the accounts link, and think that it's too soon to say the finances aren't sustainable. Owing a lot to shareholders is not unique to Dundee FC.

But I'd hope that the first and second years in the Premier League (and beyond) would show progress towards not making a loss, and indeed reducing the £3.2m debt.

Moving house seems a bit fantastic and risky but weighing up the risks is complicated when the club doesn't own Dens. Improving Dens but maintaining its character might be more affordable but less long-term secure. You'd need detailed and well-informed costings to decide on that, with probably still lots of best-guess estimates rather than guarantees.

And Rory Loy is a cause for Perth/Falkirk-related schadenfreude.

That is my summary of findings so far. Let me know if I missed anything.

This post has been cleared as wind-uppery-free and irony-free.

The report used incorrect information - there is no 3m debt. 800k or thereabouts. Literally no need for any of the fuss that's been generated. Of course a team getting relegated is going to make a loss.

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Plenty of space to build a stand like this across the length of the Derry, 4000 capacity easy. Segregate it at the halfway line with one side entering from the current Dens Road entrance and the other from the Provie Road entrance. Means we could give the 2000 to away fans and chase the Weegie dollar when they visit.

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Morecambe's Globe Arena. It's a smart wee ground.

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Ron Dixon's idea, taking away the crazier elements:

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The Element out the back of a redeveloped South stand could be a winner. No need for a new ice rink in Dundee now but some sort of club facility that generates non match day revenue would work.

In most cases corporate/main stands don't face the sun so put them on a top tier and replace the main stand with a replica of the stands behind the goals.

Love the look of steep second tier. Something very different about those plans to what's been built in Scotland.

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