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The only way I can see this ending...

The SPFL admit that the leagues wont be finished. They offer league reconstruction to be  implemented, Utd and ICT up, Hearts avoid relegation. This then secures Hearts and ICTs vote, so this will get passed at the new vote. 

Dundee look like they have held out for the greater good, but were bypassed. Nelms can spin as a moral victory.

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3 minutes ago, srw said:

The only way I can see this ending...

The SPFL admit that the leagues wont be finished. They offer league reconstruction to be  implemented, Utd and ICT up, Hearts avoid relegation. This then secures Hearts and ICTs vote, so this will get passed at the new vote. 

Dundee look like they have held out for the greater good, but were bypassed. Nelms can spin as a moral victory.

How do you sort out League Two if you make a 14 team top tier?

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4 minutes ago, rainbowrising said:

Cant see how a moral victory works. Our statement was based around economics not some heroic falling on our sword for Hearts and the DABS.

Yes, but if you cant win, you at least tried your best, hence a moral victory. Absolutely zero to do with Utd, they deserve to go up, however the bottom placed team deserve to go down, but will it be Hearts, thats where its difficult.

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2 minutes ago, srw said:

Yes, but if you cant win, you at least tried your best, hence a moral victory. Absolutely zero to do with Utd, they deserve to go up, however the bottom placed team deserve to go down, but will it be Hearts, thats where its difficult.

The bottom team with months remaining certainly dont deserve to go down. 

Would be interesting to see your view if Dundee were two points adrift at the bottom of the league with a game in hand and ruled to be relegated.

In what way is that fair? Playing one less game and being judged on previous points. The -25 season we'd be relegated. Anything can happen in football and that's why we love it.

You simply cannot hand titles and relegations out across the board. The games integrity will be shot and for me I'd never really recover the love for the game after the greed shown by some.

Nobody deserves to be punished cause of a global crisis that has nothing to do with football.

Thank you.

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3 minutes ago, Dundee-FC92 said:

The bottom team with months remaining certainly dont deserve to go down. 

Would be interesting to see your view if Dundee were two points adrift at the bottom of the league with a game in hand and ruled to be relegated.

In what way is that fair? Playing one less game and being judged on previous points. The -25 season we'd be relegated. Anything can happen in football and that's why we love it.

You simply cannot hand titles and relegations out across the board. The games integrity will be shot and for me I'd never really recover the love for the game after the greed shown by some.

Nobody deserves to be punished cause of a global crisis that has nothing to do with football.

Thank you.

 

10 minutes ago, srw said:

Yes, but if you cant win, you at least tried your best, hence a moral victory. Absolutely zero to do with Utd, they deserve to go up, however the bottom placed team deserve to go down, but will it be Hearts, thats where its difficult.

Your whole post isn't needed if you read my final 4 words.

Hearts arent massively behind, so you cant relegate them IMO.

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7 minutes ago, srw said:

 

Your whole post isn't needed if you read my final 4 words.

Hearts arent massively behind, so you cant relegate them IMO.

What about Partick and Stranraer?

In what case do they deserve to go down as you said?

The fact that all clubs have voted purely for their own good is rather depressing. The anger of opposition fans that Dundee haven't looked after number one without thought of others has painted a clear picture aswell.

Dundee FC as always doing the right thing and showing some heart for the clubs who are set to have years of financial troubles because of the chinese virus.

Thank you.

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Just now, Dundee-FC92 said:

What about Partick and Stranraer?

In what case do they deserve to go down as you said?

The fact that all clubs have voted purely for their own good is rather depressing. The anger of opposition fans that Dundee haven't looked after number one without thought of others has painted a clear picture aswell.

Dundee FC as always doing the right thing and showing some heart for the clubs who are set to have years of financial troubles because of the chinese virus.

Thank you.

Hearts and Patrick don't deserve to go down (yet), Stranraer and Brechin almost certainly do, probably 99% certain of it.

Utd and Cove, deserve to go up, Raith don't (yet).

Three of the final four sentences are nonsense, absolute utter tripe, similar to sentences by Utd fans in other threads. Bang the drum of tribalism all you like if it makes you happy though.

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8 minutes ago, Dundee-FC92 said:

Dundee FC as always doing the right thing and showing some heart for the clubs who are set to have years of financial troubles because of the chinese virus

 

If you're on about lower league sides, they voted to action the proposal you're currently opposing, so I'm not quite sure how it's being done for their sake.

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3 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

If you're on about lower league sides, they voted to action the proposal you're currently opposing, so I'm not quite sure how it's being done for their sake.

Sorry BoredumGuy but dont ever think you can quote me again on this site. I've never been quite so offended in my puff. Go on, f**k off.

But first.

Not the four who would suffer most. Wonder why the league 1 and 2 votes were combined? Are they still waiting on the top flight team and League 1 team to vote or have they accepted their abstain of vote as a No. They should hurry up and do the same with Dundee. 

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12 minutes ago, srw said:

Hearts and Patrick don't deserve to go down (yet), Stranraer and Brechin almost certainly do, probably 99% certain of it.

Utd and Cove, deserve to go up, Raith don't (yet).

Three of the final four sentences are nonsense, absolute utter tripe, similar to sentences by Utd fans in other threads. Bang the drum of tribalism all you like if it makes you happy though.

No problem Psychic Sally, never knew you were a Dundee fan. You deserve to give your greasy talons a rest from the keyboard for an hour cause they're producing a serious amount of nonsense.

Thank you.

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3 minutes ago, Dundee-FC92 said:

Not the four who would suffer most. Wonder why the league 1 and 2 votes were combined?

No idea, but 80% of the most vulnerable clubs voted for it, and one of those who didnt are a Falkirk club desperate to force through reconstruction that sees them promoted, so who are you thinking you're helping?

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1 minute ago, Dundee-FC92 said:

No problem Psychic Sally, never knew you were a Dundee fan. You deserve to give your greasy talons a rest from the keyboard for an hour cause they're producing a serious amount of nonsense.

Thank you.

Youre a strange little chap. Knock yourself out though 👍

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5 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

No idea, but 80% of the most vulnerable clubs voted for it, and one of those who didnt are a Falkirk club desperate to force through reconstruction that sees them promoted, so who are you thinking you're helping?

Who are the most vulnerable clubs in Scotland with the continuing Chinese virus implications?

You cant simply gather together league 1 and 2 as a whole and put them all in the same category.

Give me figures and potential losses from this to back up your arguement, not quotes from the daily record or Tom English.

It's been said Inverness are one of the clubs really struggling but they voted against it. The only reason clubs voted for it is out of self interest, nothing to do with needing the cash. Simply for self preservation in their leagues - either to save them from any potential drop in leagues or being too far away from either end that it really didnt matter.

As Nelms pointed out in the statement yesterday evening , some of the money can be handed out now whilst abiding to SPFL regulations. I'd much rather listen to him than a Songs of Praise boxset fiend who sits in his sweaty vest all day hyperventilating over pie and bovril.

Thank you.

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