D.Armour Appreciation Society Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Fifespud said: Not sure what this adds - ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC Listened to Burnley Chairman Alan Pace on Radio Scotland this Morning, sounded familiar........... Burnley agree partnerships with Ayr United, Llandudno, Portadown & Cobh Ramblers - BBC Sport After a couple of reciprocal visits, it all added up to the square root of not very much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee jeemie Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 22 hours ago, mungo said: Robinson hasn't been the same since he was recalled to Wimbledon the first time round last season. Was starting to look like a real prospect and coming into good form at that point but has been disappointing since . Rudden being played ahead of him for most of the season says it all. He is extremely limited but works hard and has a physical presence. Two things Robinson doesn't have. His days are numbered.......... Sorry I disagree there , I think he was at his very best when he came back , agree a bit slow to begin with , but once bowyer eventually paired him with jak I think that was his best spell at dens , they worked so well together, agree he’s been right off it this season though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 48 minutes ago, Wee jeemie said: Sorry I disagree there , I think he was at his very best when he came back , agree a bit slow to begin with , but once bowyer eventually paired him with jak I think that was his best spell at dens , they worked so well together, agree he’s been right off it this season though Perhaps partly, maybe mostly, explained by the step-up in level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, hk blues said: Perhaps partly, maybe mostly, explained by the step-up in level. That is most likely part of it. I'm dissapointed in his attitude though. He looks to be blaming others for his poorer performances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, Fifespud said: That is most likely part of it. I'm dissapointed in his attitude though. He looks to be blaming others for his poorer performances. I don't get the chance to see them much at all these days, but maybe just his frustration and inexperience getting the better of him. He'll know himself that he's not been setting the heather alight and that this season was a chance to shine for him and he's not really doing it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, Fifespud said: Not sure what this adds - ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC ALK Capital, the leading US management firm specialising in investments and operations in the sports and media sectors, and controlling owners of Burnley Football Club, have today announced a strategic partnership with Scottish Premiership club, Dundee FC. The new alliance, which comes as both clubs continue their first respective seasons back in the top-flight of English and Scottish football, will foster a platform to engage and enhance emerging and developing talent within competitive football, while creating fresh opportunities for both clubs to pursue their shared ambitions. The relationship is already seeing the likes of Dara Costelloe and Owen Dodgson join for The Dark Blues, bolstering the Club in the hunt for European qualification this season. Speaking about the partnership, Burnley FC chairman and Managing Partner of ALK Capital, Alan Pace, said: “We are thrilled to embark on this new journey with Dundee FC, who like Burnley, share a rich history and passionate fanbase. This relationship enhances our collective strength and will bring about some fantastic opportunities for shared growth and success. “The Scottish Premiership is an excellent proving ground to progress young and emerging talent, as well as providing a potential gateway to European competition. “We’re looking forward to working closely with Dundee FC and creating meaningful mutual and lasting impacts both on and off the pitch.” Dundee FC chairman, Tim Keyes, added: “We are incredibly excited to begin this partnership with ALK Capital and Burnley Football Club, which will support our continued pursuit of sporting excellence. Like ourselves, Burnley is a club that is deeply rooted within its community, and which shares our ambitions. “Joining forces with a club of this stature is a real statement of intent and one which we hope will support our journey towards greater heights in the future.” There was talk last year of the SFA relaxing their rules on joint ownership of clubs, that looks like Burnley/ALK maybe testing the waters. We had similar with Ashley and Newcastle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, bennett said: There was talk last year of the SFA relaxing their rules on joint ownership of clubs, that looks like Burnley/ALK maybe testing the waters. We had similar with Ashley and Newcastle. Can't see Keyes or Nelms giving up control of the club with their future plans tbh. A minority stake, perhaps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 48 minutes ago, bennett said: There was talk last year of the SFA relaxing their rules on joint ownership of clubs, that looks like Burnley/ALK maybe testing the waters. We had similar with Ashley and Newcastle. How did that all work out? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) In the statement they are a venture capital group in sports and media. They are obviously putting up dosh for the Nou Campy build for a return on investment in the long run. Keyes is reducing his immediate financial risk/hit for a longer term payback. It's a win/win for all parties involved . It's just smart financing and a bit of free advertising. Edited January 23 by Crawford 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Dangerous road that Scottish football is going down here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derryboy62 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Dangerous road that Scottish football is going down here. That ship has already sailed. Half the clubs( including Aberdeen)are already controlled by American based investors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 12 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Dangerous road that Scottish football is going down here. Aye. Hibs enjoying the Bournemouth money until they get the next John McGinn, who then gets sold to Bournemouth for pennies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Ludo*1 said: Can't see Keyes or Nelms giving up control of the club with their future plans tbh. A minority stake, perhaps. Aye, the BBC probably dont understand the difference but this sounds about right. 14 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Dangerous road that Scottish football is going down here. The A90? I know, treacherous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pens_Dark Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Aye. Hibs enjoying the Bournemouth money until they get the next John McGinn, who then gets sold to Bournemouth for pennies. You're right. Players don't go down South for absolute pittance as it is already.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, Pens_Dark said: You're right. Players don't go down South for absolute pittance as it is already.. This. Finding the shouts of "feeder club!!!" amusing to be quite honest. As if every single Scottish club isn't just a feeder for bigger teams from bigger leagues already. Might as well formalise it and get some sort of continual benefit rather than just a paltry sell-on percentage and a keek transfer fee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pens_Dark Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, Boo Khaki said: This. Finding the shouts of "feeder club!!!" amusing to be quite honest. As if every single Scottish club isn't just a feeder for bigger teams from bigger leagues already. Might as well formalise it and get some sort of continual benefit rather than just a paltry sell-on percentage and a keek transfer fee. Exactly and as it is, this agreement doesn't give Burnley the opportunity to buy our players on the cheap. There is nothing in that agreement that would suggest that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 11 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Aye. Hibs enjoying the Bournemouth money until they get the next John McGinn, who then gets sold to Bournemouth for pennies. I think you are reading too much into these link ups. One thing is certain, you are definitely overlooking the fact that a player cannot simply be sold to another club without the consent of the player. Like it or not market forces will still decide who goes where. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Hope your "relationship" with Burnley is more successful than the one they had with us , ours ammounted to a friendly v their under 23s at Somerset and a kit that was kinda Burnely-esque. Big talk of it going to be fruitful before it was quietly shelved about a year later 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 58 minutes ago, Crawford said: In the statement they are a venture capital group in sports and media. They are obviously putting up dosh for the Nou Campy build for a return on investment in the long run. Keyes is reducing his immediate financial risk/hit for a longer term payback. It's a win/win for all parties involved . It's just smart financing and a bit of free advertising. Perhaps it’s just because I’ve seen so many clubs face financial difficulties in Scottish football over the decades that I fail to see why so-called successful businesspeople decide to “invest” in our clubs. It just doesn’t add up for me. My St Mirren shareholding was purchased in the late 90s to help save our club when we were experiencing massive difficulties following the late 80s early 90s Fitzpatrick-Hay era of “spend-spend-spend”. Thankfully now finally we are fan owned. I never expected then to get a return on my investment and I don’t now. It was an emotional purchase to preserve our club for future generations - if I suffered then so can they. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, Molotov said: Perhaps it’s just because I’ve seen so many clubs face financial difficulties in Scottish football over the decades that I fail to see why so-called successful businesspeople decide to “invest” in our clubs. It just doesn’t add up for me. My St Mirren shareholding was purchased in the late 90s to help save our club when we were experiencing massive difficulties following the late 80s early 90s Fitzpatrick-Hay era of “spend-spend-spend”. Thankfully now finally we are fan owned. I never expected then to get a return on my investment and I don’t now. It was an emotional purchase to preserve our club for future generations - if I suffered then so can they. I think it's the facilities and guaranteed rent they are investing in rather than the club. They've never made a secret that the new venue wasn't just for Dundee FC. That's where the investment is. Scottish football as an investment opportunity isn't high risk, it's highly stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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