vikingTON Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 http://www.labour-party.org.uk/manifestos/1983/1983-labour-manifesto.shtml Erm yes, unfortunately for gibbering fools like yourself though, the non-Labour voters within the population actually judge a party's stance by, erm, their actions, rather than their mealy-mouthed, attention-seeking manifesto claims. And the evidence with Labour on nuclear weapons is damning. The party that set up the UK's nuclear weapons program. The party that has been in government for a large amount of the successive six decades, and has acquiesced in every aspect of the UK's nuclear weapons policy. Including 13 years in power, not too long ago, in which Labour did absolutely nothing about the removal of nuclear weapons, either from the Clyde, or from the UK in general. Josef Fritzl has a better record as family patriarch than the Labour Party have on nuclear weapons. You're a busted flush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 What's the branch manager's views on Trident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 What's the branch manager's views on Trident. He gets a rager every time it's mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Most Labour supporters would support a nuclear weapon being mounted on their roof if the Party said it was a good idea. Total weirdos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Me and maw got tickets to go and see Salmond/Mike Weir in Forfar now after enjoying Sturgeons speech so much last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Erm yes, unfortunately for gibbering fools like yourself though, the non-Labour voters within the population actually judge a party's stance by, erm, their actions, rather than their mealy-mouthed, attention-seeking manifesto claims. And the evidence with Labour on nuclear weapons is damning. The party that set up the UK's nuclear weapons program. The party that has been in government for a large amount of the successive six decades, and has acquiesced in every aspect of the UK's nuclear weapons policy. Including 13 years in power, not too long ago, in which Labour did absolutely nothing about the removal of nuclear weapons, either from the Clyde, or from the UK in general. Josef Fritzl has a better record as family patriarch than the Labour Party have on nuclear weapons. You're a busted flush. Irrelevant. They went into an election proposing disarmament, therefore clearly haven't always supported nuclear weapons. No Labour government has supported disarmament, the party leadership has in the past. No reason why that wing of the party won't end up in leadership positions again, though as with last time I doubt they would manage to get anywhere near government. You can say a lot of things about Michael Foot but you would struggle to pretend his support for CND was 'mealy mouthed attention seeking'. He was advised by basically everyone with sense that his stance on nuclear weapons harmed the party but he was so passionate about it he went ahead and fought the election on the basis of disarmament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Jmothecat has rapidly gone from lecturing us about how Labour are a broad church which tolerates internal dissent on policy to boasting about how Foot and the anti-nuclear "loony left" were "purged" from the party. You couldn't make it up. When did I say anyone has been 'purged' from the party? Michael Foot died, didn't get purged, he's still popular amongst a lot in the party and the loony left definitely exist, as can be seen by the likes of Katy Clark and Neil Findlay and all their supporters during the leadership election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Irrelevant. They went into an election proposing disarmament, therefore clearly haven't always supported nuclear weapons. Since when were Labour promises worth the paper they are written on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 When did I say anyone has been 'purged' from the party? Michael Foot died, didn't get purged, he's still popular amongst a lot in the party and the loony left definitely exist, as can be seen by the likes of Katy Clark and Neil Findlay and all their supporters during the leadership election. Apologies. I incorrectly attributed that quote to you when you didn't actually say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 About 4 minutes 20 in. It's amusing that you think Jim Murphy comes out of this altercation better than the heckling Yes punters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 When did I say anyone has been 'purged' from the party? Michael Foot died, didn't get purged, he's still popular amongst a lot in the party and the loony left definitely exist, as can be seen by the likes of Katy Clark and Neil Findlay and all their supporters during the leadership election. so, just to be clear, it's a "loony left" position to call for the removal of Trident from Faslane, to scrap it, and to spend the billions of pounds that would save on more worthwhile (NHS, transport, education, childcare) projects? a Yes or No will suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 so, just to be clear, it's a "loony left" position to call for the removal of Trident from Faslane, to scrap it, and to spend the billions of pounds that would save on more worthwhile (NHS, transport, education, childcare) projects? a Yes or No will suffice. Quite a few right wingers are incredibly comfortable with high tax and high spend, so long as none of the cash finds it's way to helping normal people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Me and maw got tickets to go and see Salmond/Mike Weir in Forfar now after enjoying Sturgeons speech so much last time. Think you need a ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Think you need a ride. You a taxi driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 JimtheCat Would you be able to explain why after 50 yrs of Labour control in Glasgow and total dominance in Scotland , westminster representation; why parts of our biggest city have some of the highest poverty rates and lowest life exp in Western world?? Are these not areas traditionally represented by the labour party. Despite this people like Margaret Curran grow richer each day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 JimtheCat Would you be able to explain why after 50 yrs of Labour control in Glasgow and total dominance in Scotland , westminster representation; why parts of our biggest city have some of the highest poverty rates and lowest life exp in Western world?? Are these not areas traditionally represented by the labour party. Despite this people like Margaret Curran grow richer each day That's because people who vote for what they perceive as left wing. Tend to do so, because they want some kind of government hand out, or are reliant on government monopoly force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 That's because people who vote for what they perceive as left wing. Tend to do so, because they want some kind of government hand out, or are reliant on government monopoly force. Well its obviously not working, yet the sheep keep voting these labour clowns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 That's because people who vote for what they perceive as left wing. Tend to do so, because they want some kind of government hand out, or are reliant on government monopoly force. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 JimtheCat Would you be able to explain why after 50 yrs of Labour control in Glasgow and total dominance in Scotland , westminster representation; why parts of our biggest city have some of the highest poverty rates and lowest life exp in Western world?? Are these not areas traditionally represented by the labour party. Despite this people like Margaret Curran grow richer each day Because Labour have no interest in improving the lives of the poor as they need people to be poor to carry on providing voting fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Anyone know of anywhere with a list of how MPs voted today? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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