Tubbs Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Tubbs should spam every thread regarding this issue methinks. Yes I could accept that it is complete rubbish; or I could spend time denying it existed, claim its just discussion and not a pledge, or state it was merely the comment of a single individual, not a pledge or a Commitment, or ask for evidence or try any way possible to deflect or ignore the point etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I merely asked you to prove it was in the white paper. You were unable to do so because you were talking shite. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowthennowthen Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I merely asked you to prove it was in the white paper. You were unable to do so because you were talking shite. Sorry. Did you ever think to check the White Paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Did you ever think to check the White Paper Eh no. He made the statement on various threads and couldn't back it up with evidence when asked. Not my problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbs Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 As I was saying, there are those who like denial, however you are taking that to the next level by proactively avoiding the evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 You made the claim and proactively failed to back your bullshit up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Tubbs, on 05 Jan 2015 - 14:31, said:Yes I could accept that it is complete rubbish; claim its just discussion and not a pledge You could do both of these things correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowthennowthen Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Eh no. He made the statement on various threads and couldn't back it up with evidence when asked. Not my problem. So you are saying it isn't but you don't actually know, having not checked yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I know they certainly didn't pledge that it would be a once in a lifetime vote. Tubbs was making out that it was written in stone in the white paper as if it was actual policy. This is quite clearly bullshit. A figure of speech saying something is a once in a lifetime opportunity doesn't mean that it will never happen again or that it was some sort of pledge that needs to be stuck to. He knows it, I know it, everyone knows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbs Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 So you are saying it isn't but you don't actually know, having not checked yourself? I suspect he has actually read it, as he is now lying about 'stone' and 'policy' stuff which reeks of actually finally looking for himself having been embarrassed by his own ignorance. Or maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I suspect he has actually read it, as he is now lying about 'stone' and 'policy' stuff which reeks of actually finally looking for himself having been embarrassed by his own ignorance. Or maybe not. You made out that it was in the white paper as if it was a pledge. Where was it ? Was it between the childcare pledge and the removal of trident pledge ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbs Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 You made out that it was in the white paper as if it was a pledge. Where was it ? Was it between the childcare pledge and the removal of trident pledge ? You have read it then :lol: ? Or did you get someone else to read it for you perhaps? Why not just shuffle off quietly or just a quiet apology and we will say no more about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 You have read it then :lol: ? Or did you get someone else to read it for you perhaps? Why not just shuffle off quietly or just a quiet apology and we will say no more about it. I didn't read anything, certainly not today. I must say, I'm totally gutted that there won't be another referendum in my lifetime because Salmond used a figure of speech on the tele Gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbs Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I didn't read anything, certainly not today. I must say, I'm totally gutted that there won't be another referendum in my lifetime because Salmond used a figure of speech on the tele Gutted. You must be pleased with yourself now that you are back to your unbelievable claim of 'I don't know anything about the white paper and I am not going to read it - I'm just going to spout my uninformed opinion because I can'. Most idiots don't shout about their ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Did you ever think to check the White Paper He didn't make the claim. It's the job of the bullshitter to back up their bullshit or be dismissed out of hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Bull Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Next time we'll win, cheers. Naw ye wulnae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowthennowthen Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 He didn't make the claim. It's the job of the bullshitter to back up their bullshit or be dismissed out of hand. There seems to be 2 versions of the claim, just like real politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbs Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 He didn't make the claim. It's the job of the bullshitter to back up their bullshit or be dismissed out of hand. Yes, lets encourage a lack of awareness about independence; lets encourage people to say repeatedly that a key document doesn't contain certain things and for that person to then be proud that they haven't even read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Yes I could accept that it is complete rubbish; or I could spend time denying it existed, claim its just discussion and not a pledge, or state it was merely the comment of a single individual, not a pledge or a Commitment, or ask for evidence or try any way possible to deflect or ignore the point etc etc etc Just accept that when a politician states once in a generation they are really defining a generation as the term of the parliament. Salmond, Milliband and Cameron have all used this phrase to mean anything but a generation (by any normal definition). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbs Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Just accept that when a politician states once in a generation they are really defining a generation as the term of the parliament. Salmond, Milliband and Cameron have all used this phrase to mean anything but a generation (by any normal definition). I don't agree with that; it is rhetoric/lies to over dramatise the specific situation in question and mislead people into thinking this is a more important and longer lasting decision that it actually is. But you are right they all do it, so not sure if that balances it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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