ArabianKnight Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I think the overwhelming majority of Arabs, including those who were pleased to see him subbed yesterday, appreciates how good a player Ciftci is. On his day he is an excellent striker. It's his constant, and I do mean constant, antics that frustrate so much. These include, trying to do everything himself, shooting when he should pass, turning his back on the game, failing to get himself back onside quickly enough once an attack has broken down, and going in the huff (or at least appearing to). Of course with his obvious ability if he didn't have these traits he wouldn't be playing at United. At the same time if he has ambition to play at a higher level he needs to rid himself of these weaknesses in his game. I really think that if we were to bring in another striker who is not just seen as a back up player but can challenge Ciftci for first choice then we may get the best from him. As things stand he knows he will continue to be first pick regardless of how he plays. A million times this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NareyAProblem Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Half the time Ciftci just looks so forlorn. It's as if he's been dumped by Miss Turkey the night before every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 You have to go back a grand total of 1 game to find the last time cifti wasn't picked in the starting XI. We had United fans on here clamouring for him to be dropped for his attitude and antics despite the fact he had scored or assisted almost any goal we had scored in the previous month. I would love another striker brought in, bilate is utterly useless. However, until that happens Cifti absolutely should be starting every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quitongo's Left Peg Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 Aye, what a horrible problem it must be to try and figure out what to do with someone as fantastically talented as Nadir Ciftci... Must be fucking awful to be an Arab eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 You have to go back a grand total of 1 game to find the last time cifti wasn't picked in the starting XI. We had United fans on here clamouring for him to be dropped for his attitude and antics despite the fact he had scored or assisted almost any goal we had scored in the previous month. I would love another striker brought in, bilate is utterly useless. However, until that happens Cifti absolutely should be starting every game. Bilate isn't utterly useless, he's hardly had a crack of the whip. I reckon if he stays clear of injury he'll be a decent, very decent striker for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Bilate isn't utterly useless, he's hardly had a crack of the whip. I reckon if he stays clear of injury he'll be a decent, very decent striker for us. well i certainly hope so but he has scored one worldy and a pen so far, hardly setting the heather alight. his runs off the ball are bizarre, with a particular favourite one seeming to be wanting to drift wide and overlap the ball carrier on counter attacks instead of hitting the penalty box. he also seems to be made of paper. does a nice job of holding the ball up and links well with the midfield but you want a hell of a lot more than that from a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 well i certainly hope so but he has scored one worldy and a pen so far, hardly setting the heather alight. his runs off the ball are bizarre, with a particular favourite one seeming to be wanting to drift wide and overlap the ball carrier on counter attacks instead of hitting the penalty box. he also seems to be made of paper. does a nice job of holding the ball up and links well with the midfield but you want a hell of a lot more than that from a striker. Agree with a couple of points there, he just needs a bit of time on the pitch during games with the team. I reckon he has a dodgy ham string and its not getting quite enough time to settle, as weird as this sounds I'd rather he was out the team a little longer to ensure he's fully healed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 just seen the highlights there. cifti's goal he never even looks up once, just drives head down and unleashes the finish. as much as he is a huge pain in the arse i think he is one of these players that you just have to accept a bit of selfishness and poor decision making from as he will give you moments like that. gms with an assist for the second that i had forgotten about so he possibly gets bumped up to a 5/10. also hamilll is a fat useless tub and a p***k of a man too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Armstrong' goal looked really good at the time; sublime in the highlights. Yesterday he showed us what he is all about, hopefully we can see more of this as the season progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Seeing Allan Johnston's comments after the game can anyone confirm which game he was watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny arab Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 just seen the highlights there. cifti's goal he never even looks up once, just drives head down and unleashes the finish. as much as he is a huge pain in the arse i think he is one of these players that you just have to accept a bit of selfishness and poor decision making from as he will give you moments like that. gms with an assist for the second that i had forgotten about so he possibly gets bumped up to a 5/10. also hamilll is a fat useless tub and a p***k of a man too. It was Erskine who set up the second goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 How good to United fans think Armstrong is btw? Obviously I rarely see him in the flesh these days (lower league diddy alert) but every now and then I'll watch Sportscene and Armstrong often looks like he's absolutely strolling in the highlights. Do United fans think he's a reasonable player playing at a modest level, or could he go on to be a Scotland/Premiership regular starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 It was Erskine who set up the second goal. Back to 3/10 then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Darkest Timeline Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 How good to United fans think Armstrong is btw? Obviously I rarely see him in the flesh these days (lower league diddy alert) but every now and then I'll watch Sportscene and Armstrong often looks like he's absolutely strolling in the highlights. Do United fans think he's a reasonable player playing at a modest level, or could he go on to be a Scotland/Premiership regular starter? If he was consistent, he could be a good mid-table Premiership player. Sadly though, he hasn't been like that for a while now. Our best player on his day though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 How good to United fans think Armstrong is btw? Obviously I rarely see him in the flesh these days (lower league diddy alert) but every now and then I'll watch Sportscene and Armstrong often looks like he's absolutely strolling in the highlights. Do United fans think he's a reasonable player playing at a modest level, or could he go on to be a Scotland/Premiership regular starter? Last year I would have told you he could eventually go onto play in a top top team in one of the big leagues. Hasn't quite hit the heights this year to the same degree but is the best player at the club. He should be an international regular soon and potential captain in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 If he was consistent, he could be a good mid-table Premiership player. Sadly though, he hasn't been like that for a while now. Our best player on his day though. Last year I would have told you he could eventually go onto play in a top top team in one of the big leagues. Hasn't quite hit the heights this year to the same degree but is the best player at the club. He should be an international regular soon and potential captain in future. Cheers lads. I hope he manages to find some consistency and reaches the potential you talk about, he's only 22 so I don't see why it isn't possible. I say all this because whilst Scotland have pretty good options in centre mid (Brown, Mulgrew, Morrison, Fletchet etc) they're all in their late 20's and won't be around forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennysmassiveego Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Seeing Allan Johnston's comments after the game can anyone confirm which game he was watching? Don't fret AJ is indeed an idiot when it comes to post match comments . He's old school in that he deems it necessary to amplify his own teams efforts no matter how ineffective they may have been . No bad thing some may argue but cringeworthy for the fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Cheers lads. I hope he manages to find some consistency and reaches the potential you talk about, he's only 22 so I don't see why it isn't possible. I say all this because whilst Scotland have pretty good options in centre mid (Brown, Mulgrew, Morrison, Fletchet etc) they're all in their late 20's and won't be around forever. If he wants his career to reach that potential it seems he has, I think Armstrong needs to move on from United pretty sharpish. On his day he's probably our best player, but I think his progress is waning at Tannadice and in the Scottish Premiership. I don't think he's getting the challenge he needs, he's a bit too comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedruleFTD83 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Think that's unfair on gms who was very effective and as usual booted every time he went past someone. Shifty was good in the first half and certainly worked hard - dropped deep to collect the ball and I even saw him fill in a t left back. However he made a lot of poor decisions later on and was arguing with his own players again by the end. Spot on, very unfair on GMS considering he is twice the player on the left than on the right where he's stuck 90% of the time these days Ciftci is excellent and contributing goals or assists most games despite not hitting the heights yet, took a good block by Samson early 2nd half to prevent us killing the game and him bagging a brace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedruleFTD83 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I would expect to see a plethora of TenaLady strewn everywhere for the cleaners tomorrow. It really disappoints you to see the constant moaning from the Utd support. Ruined a game where I thought we done well. Aye it's getting tiresome from the boo boys now, never happy even with us doing well and Tannadice a fortress of sorts, wish they'd be positive and back the team or just stfu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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