mccormackwilsongoal Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Kane is a great player. May is a great striker. But could either man hold a candle to Martin glancy? Kane is the most exciting player we've had since John McQuade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasps1 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Head and shoulders above by miles?? Just doesn't seem right. I'm sure you are in a position to say he won't be capped though. They are completely different kinds of player. Kane will make it though. He is far too good for either of the teams that played in the game yesterday. Natural finisher and he will develop into a great player. But another 6 months with Dumbarton would do him the world of good Am very very unsure is he will make it at the top level in scotland in my view championship is his level .I might be proved wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Am very very unsure is he will make it at the top level in scotland in my view championship is his level .I might be proved wrong Nothing is certain but when I see Kane I see a player similar to Ian Wallace in his bustling ability and goalscoring. I'd be surprised if he doesn't make it in the Premiership. No.....amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Kane's still growing. He's gotten much stronger since last season. I think that'll see that he makes it in the premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Quite often see modern day players being compared to guys from the 70s etc. Considering those were the days of a half time woodbine and a hawf of grouse could these guys phsyically compete with the modern players in terms of fitness etc? Even from when I was younger (90's) there has been a huge change in fitness levels etc but all these golden oldies that often get spoke about are way before my time so I'm unable to compare. I'd say about 90% of the time they are spoken about in high regard compared to our current squad but I'm not sure whether that's down to nostalgia or if they were actually better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Quite often see modern day players being compared to guys from the 70s etc. Considering those were the days of a half time woodbine and a hawf of grouse could these guys phsyically compete with the modern players in terms of fitness etc? Even from when I was younger (90's) there has been a huge change in fitness levels etc but all these golden oldies that often get spoke about are way before my time so I'm unable to compare. I'd say about 90% of the time they are spoken about in high regard compared to our current squad but I'm not sure whether that's down to nostalgia or if they were actually better. Trust me, in Dumbarton's case they were better. I defy anyone to say that the period 1970 to 1980 didn't see the best collective football talents at this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimistic Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I don't recall may doing much against us while at alloa or Hamilton, kane getting stronger, faster, and so experienced and bags more to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Trust me, in Dumbarton's case they were better. I defy anyone to say that the period 1970 to 1980 didn't see the best collective football talents at this club. Even up to '85, maybe as late as '87 you could say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DumbartonTerrace Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Dumbarton Terrace report: http://thedumbartonterrace.wordpress.com/2014/12/08/alloa-athletic-0-dumbarton-1-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Trust me, in Dumbarton's case they were better. I defy anyone to say that the period 1970 to 1980 didn't see the best collective football talents at this club. What about early 1890's? It's impossible to compare different era's. Fitness levels are completely different and the game has changed so much it's impossible to say if the 70's team could beat the curent team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 What about early 1890's? It's impossible to compare different era's. Fitness levels are completely different and the game has changed so much it's impossible to say if the 70's team could beat the curent team That's kinda what I was getting at. I never seen anything before the 90s so I'm not really in a position to compare. Just seem to see the older generation reminding us how our current crop of guys aren't fit to lace the boots of the players from the 70s. No doubt we had bigger players in terms of what they achieved in the game, absolutely no denying that but the modern day player is fitter than ever. I've even recently seen some folk talking about our title winning squad of a few years ago. I wouldn't have a single one of them in our current squad but sometimes nostalgia can cloud judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonsTV Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Highlights from Saturday's game now online. Thanks for all the positive feedback we have received publicly and privately. Appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 What about early 1890's? It's impossible to compare different era's. Fitness levels are completely different and the game has changed so much it's impossible to say if the 70's team could beat the curent team I don't think any poster on here will recall earlier than the 1950's so there's no point in being absurd about it. I stand by my original posting about the 1970's Sons sides; from the start of that decade to the end, the teams of then would have beaten that of today, and I'm just sorry that none of our younger fans were unable to witness them. The benchmark for every Dumbarton fan of a certain age is the Championship-winning team of 1972. If people are still waxing about today's squad over 40 years from now then they will have their equals. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockson Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I don't think any poster on here will recall earlier than the 1950's so there's no point in being absurd about it. I stand by my original posting about the 1970's Sons sides; from the start of that decade to the end, the teams of then would have beaten that of today, and I'm just sorry that none of our younger fans were unable to witness them. The benchmark for every Dumbarton fan of a certain age is the Championship-winning team of 1972. If people are still waxing about today's squad over 40 years from now then they will have their equals. That is all. All we can say is that the present squad is the best we've had in nigh on thirty years. In terms of league position that's certainly true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Cruyff Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I don't think any poster on here will recall earlier than the 1950's so there's no point in being absurd about it. I stand by my original posting about the 1970's Sons sides; from the start of that decade to the end, the teams of then would have beaten that of today, and I'm just sorry that none of our younger fans were unable to witness them. The benchmark for every Dumbarton fan of a certain age is the Championship-winning team of 1972. If people are still waxing about today's squad over 40 years from now then they will have their equals. That is all. To say the team from the 70's is the best ever is certainly rose tinted specs. Reaching the Premier League in the 80's was a much bigger achievement than getting in to the old First Division and by logical extension makes that makes the 80's team the best ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 To say the team from the 70's is the best ever is certainly rose tinted specs. Reaching the Premier League in the 80's was a much bigger achievement than getting in to the old First Division and by logical extension makes that makes the 80's team the best ever. I'm not going to disrespect a decent side, but to suggest that a promotion spot as runners-up compares to a decade of a Championship-winning team, Scottish Cup 1/4 finalists three times, semi-finalists once and Spring Cup finalists is hardly viewing thro rose-tinted specs. Williams, Graham, Gallagher C., Wallace W., McAdam (2), McCluskey, McLean, Wallace I., Bourke, Sinclair, Fyfe, Blair, Gallagher B, McLeod (2), Sharp - regarding footballing talent no other DFC period comes even close my friend. And five full Scottish internationals in there to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel wickson Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I'm not going to disrespect a decent side, but to suggest that a promotion spot as runners-up compares to a decade of a Championship-winning team, Scottish Cup 1/4 finalists three times, semi-finalists once and Spring Cup finalists is hardly viewing thro rose-tinted specs. Williams, Graham, Gallagher C., Wallace W., McAdam (2), McCluskey, McLean, Wallace I., Bourke, Sinclair, Fyfe, Blair, Gallagher B, McLeod (2), Sharp - regarding footballing talent no other DFC period comes even close my friend. And five full Scottish internationals in there to boot. Can't believe you missed out a certain League Cup semi-final from that list! I'd also add Jumbo Muir and Brian Heron to your excellent selection. Btw we also only got as far as the Spring Cup semi-final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Football in general and Dumbarton in particular were better to watch in the 70s and 80s. However fitness and tactics have moved on apace and I'd probably take our current team to win the hypothetical match against the far superior skilled 1972 side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Can't believe you missed out a certain League Cup semi-final from that list! I'd also add Jumbo Muir and Brian Heron to your excellent selection. Btw we also only got as far as the Spring Cup semi-final. I hadn't forgotten about October 1970 but my decades run from 1 to 0. Stand guilt on the Spring Cup certainly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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