Hampden Diehard Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 People sing songs mocking the opposition every week, inside and outside the ground. So to use that as a justification for violence is absolutely ridiculous, never mind the bricking of buses which had kids on it. Shameful scenes, and no matter how you try to make yourselves feel better, by saying "aww but hearts fans did this", there is absolutely nothing you can say to make it even close to being acceptable. If I were a Hearts fan, I'd have stayed well away from these idiots and certainly wouldn't have goaded them. A total halfwit would have been able to see that they were in an ugly mood (easy jokes here!). That doesn't excuse the nonsense that went on, but sometimes you have to take a look at whether you've made a potentially dangerous situation worse for yourself. It's not fair and it's totally unacceptable, but don't put yourself in a difficult situation and then be surprised when it all goes wrong for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThePirate Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Next time you sing 'since 1902' to my face I'm gonnae batter your c**t in. That's ok though amirite? That would be fine, but why stop there? Do my windows in and shout at the niece and nephew. amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 If I were a Hearts fan, I'd have stayed well away from these idiots and certainly wouldn't have goaded them. A total halfwit would have been able to see that they were in an ugly mood (easy jokes here!). That doesn't excuse the nonsense that went on, but sometimes you have to take a look at whether you've made a potentially dangerous situation worse for yourself. It's not fair and it's totally unacceptable, but don't put yourself in a difficult situation and then be surprised when it all goes wrong for you. What was the Police presence like at the Moon-howling steps? More to the point, what was the police response to the violence? Inadvisable though it most certainly was - kicking a dog in the balls was an apt analogy, cause/effect-wise - there doesn't appear to be any legal issue with what the jambos were singing. Reacting with physical violence, or even the attempt at such? I'd have thought that was arrestable, if only on BoP grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThePirate Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 If I were a Hearts fan, I'd have stayed well away from these idiots and certainly wouldn't have goaded them. A total halfwit would have been able to see that they were in an ugly mood (easy jokes here!). That doesn't excuse the nonsense that went on, but sometimes you have to take a look at whether you've made a potentially dangerous situation worse for yourself. It's not fair and it's totally unacceptable, but don't put yourself in a difficult situation and then be surprised when it all goes wrong for you. I agree, I'd have did the same. I would've tried to avoid trouble at all costs, especially under the circumstances. However, it maybe wouldn't be so bad if it was only the idiots who taunted them that were affected, but it wasn't. As I said in an earlier post, the Hearts fans were naive, and of course they were looking for a reaction, but there's no way that merited the reaction that it did from the Rangers fans. In all honesty, I have no idea what they were expecting, I wouldn't be daft enough to put myself in that situation, so I can only look at it for what it is, which is fans singing, and then the opposition fans attacking them, and I would say the same if it was between any other set of fans, or the roles reversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Scottish football often feels like a claustrophobic little village where everything gets blown totally out of proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Hearts fans were not naive, that is a silly thing to say as they went out their way to confront opposing fans at a time when tensions were running high. They knew what they were doing and they wanted a reaction. Fannies among our support reacted to the hearts fannies and it all kicked off. Seems pretty straightforward and I read the other day that the police are checking CCTV footage, so hopefully the wee fannies responsible on both sides get lifted. Edit for spacing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Awww f**k off bigot. Away and find ONE racist post of mine on Pie and Bovril. There are near 25,000 posts so there must be literally hundreds of them so they shouldn't be too difficult to find Just pie and Bovril though... Don't look anywhere else.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Norman bringing religion into another Rangers match thread..... Yay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 ^^Well at least we know who the village idiot is, don't we? Has there ever been an instance of violence or disorder committed by therangers fans that wasn't provoked and therefore fully justified or blown completely out of proportion? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Prince Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 That would be fine, but why stop there? Do my windows in and shout at the niece and nephew. amirite? Nah I'll batter them as well because they would be there when you said it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Incidentally - is there any requirement for clubs/companies to have a suitable number of orange balls for games like this ? The one yellow ball 'Rangers' found in a kit bag may not have lasted the distance ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Hearts fans were not naive, that is a silly thing to say as they went out their way to confront opposing fans at a time when tensions were running high. They knew what they were doing and they wanted a reaction. Fannies among our support reacted to the hearts fannies and it all kicked off. Seems pretty straightforward and I read the other day that the police are checking CCTV footage, so hopefully the wee fannies responsible on both sides get lifted. Edit for spacing What would be the charge for singing "you let your Club die"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThePirate Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Nah I'll batter them as well because they would be there when you said it to me. To be fair, I'd probably fancy my nieces chances against you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 What would be the charge for singing "you let your Club die"? Phone the polis and ask them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThePirate Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Hearts fans were not naive, that is a silly thing to say as they went out their way to confront opposing fans at a time when tensions were running high. They knew what they were doing and they wanted a reaction. Fannies among our support reacted to the hearts fannies and it all kicked off. Seems pretty straightforward and I read the other day that the police are checking CCTV footage, so hopefully the wee fannies responsible on both sides get lifted. Edit for spacing How is it silly to say they were naive? They didn't go in arms swinging, all guns blazing, they stood and sung a song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Hearts fans were not naive, that is a silly thing to say as they went out their way to confront opposing fans at a time when tensions were running high. They knew what they were doing and they wanted a reaction. Fannies among our support reacted to the hearts fannies and it all kicked off. Seems pretty straightforward and I read the other day that the police are checking CCTV footage, so hopefully the wee fannies responsible on both sides get lifted. Edit for spacing Singing 'you let your club die' is a crime? I condemn any sectarian or racist singing - especially by the few eejits who follow my own club - but football banter is not hate. Sorry, but anyone who thinks it's ok to brick buses full of people because of a football joke is almost literally as bad as the Islamists who demand the death penalty - often by stoning funnily enough - for 'mocking' the prophet. Violence is wrong. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThePirate Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 ^^Well at least we know who the village idiot is, don't we? Has there ever been an instance of violence or disorder committed by therangers fans that wasn't provoked and therefore fully justified or blown completely out of proportion? No? Don't be silly, then they would have to blame themselves. No surrender and all that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Singing 'you let your club die' is a crime? I condemn any sectarian or racist singing - especially by the few eejits who follow my own club - but football banter is not hate. Sorry, but anyone who thinks it's ok to brick buses full of people because of a football joke is almost literally as bad as the Islamists who demand the death penalty - often by stoning funnily enough - for 'mocking' the prophet. Violence is wrong. End of. You just haven't put words in my mouth, I don't believe I said most of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 How is it silly to say they were naive? They didn't go in arms swinging, all guns blazing, they stood and sung a song. They went round to incite trouble, they were not naive and they wanted a reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Phone the polis and ask them. and be charged with "wasting Police time"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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