FlyerTon Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 It's looking more and more likely another Tory government until 2020 unfortunately. I've a feeling they may even run as a minority government. What will five more years of the Tories mean for Scotland? What more can they shut down? They've almost shut down the RAF in Scotland (apart from 1 base) Coastguard stations (Clyde, Forth etc have also been shut down under their rule) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I think another 5 years of a tory government will look eerily similar to 5 years of a labour government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 I think another 5 years of a tory government will look eerily similar to 5 years of a labour government. I don't think Labour would have shut down RAF Leuchars. Ex PM Gordon Brown was trying to save it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Nah, it won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 They also privatised Search and Rescue. If the Tories wish to run as a minority government it will last about a week. The Labour party would be as well just folding there and then if they did not challenge every little thing and vote everything down in those circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I don't think Labour would have shut down RAF Leuchars. Ex PM Gordon Brown was trying to save it. Ok. They'd have made swinging cuts elsewhere though. The fact that labour has made a concerted effort in recent years to move away from the Tories is a problem in itself for me. The reason for this has been to simply win votes (I know this is a bit obvious but bear with me). In a few years time when public opinion says they need to close the gap to the Tories and shift to the right then they will. They have lost any link to their roots or any resemblance of principles. They have essentially become the Democrats. Now many on this forum will have no issue with any of this but for me it's utterly depressing. I hope the labour party die in scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gullane No 4 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 A minority Tory government would probably be quite good for the UK. My worst fear is a majority Labour government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 I think Cameron will still be in the top job, a poll even suggested more Scots prefer him as PM than Miliband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 If history is anything to go by, a healthy economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 If history is anything to go by, a healthy economy. Well this very much depends on how you define healthy. If you mean the rich getting richer - then I fully agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 The so called 'Rainbow coalition' Could be a goer: Lab / SNP/ Lib http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/vince-cable-lib-dems-would-enter-rainbow-coalition-with-labour-and-the-sn.118662887 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 The so called 'Rainbow coalition' Could be a goer: Lab / SNP/ Lib http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/vince-cable-lib-dems-would-enter-rainbow-coalition-with-labour-and-the-sn.118662887 A Labour spokesman said: "This election is about evicting David Cameron from Downing St and only the Labour Party can do that. A vote for any other party makes it get more likely that the Tories will be the biggest party, and David Cameron will get into government through the back door." They are a parody of themselves. And of course they don't mention who the man is that would be replacing Cameron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 This: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbs Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 What would 5 more year of the Tories mean? Mission accomplished for the SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 What would 5 more year of the Tories mean? Mission accomplished for the SNP. So constant Tory governments with no prospect of independence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Well this very much depends on how you define healthy. If you mean the rich getting richer - then I fully agree. And the poor getting richer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Another Tory Government would simply mean more enrichment for the entitled and the working class been put more firmly in their box. Already demand contracts ("zero-hours") have become almost acceptable - if we (the working people of this country) don't combine and act soon, it'll be back to turning up at the dock gates hoping for a day's work. The Labour Party has lost all touch with those it claims to represent, and Socialism is seen as a dirty word, and Trades Unions - the only organisations devoted entirely to their members, are seen as a destructive force. When are toy all going to wake up, for fúck's sake? This Government is so anti-worker it is unreal. That the workers themselves have tolerated this "good for business" bollox for so long is beyond parody. The latest attack on the TU movement is to declare that Industrial Action is not legitimate if less than half of Union Members vote in favour. Not a majority vote, notice - a majority of those eligible to vote. By this standard, the vast majority of those currently sitting in the commons have no legitimate mandate. Yet the media and many working people believe this is a Government for "hard-working families". It would make you weep. Of course we're working hard - I've not seen a payrise for five years, my workload has increased massively, staff numbers have been cut - we're grafting our fucking arses off just to survive! Facility time for TU representatives has been slashed to almost nothing, when every study conducted shows that productivity is higher when there is a robust IR structure in place. My workplace, with four major Unions representing staff, allocates eight hours per week between us all. This is a workplace with a very high incidence of investigations involving public accountability, any one of which can take hundreds of hours of man-hours to resolve. Don't get me wrong, I and the other reps will do what we can in our own time - we're doing this because we care, after all - but the look on managers' faces when we point out that the reason they can't complete an enquiry is because they actually have to allow representation would be comical if it were not people's livelihoods at risk. I realise I'm ranting, but I'm becoming increasingly angry at the majority of this country sleepwalking into servitude. If there's a Union at work, join it. If not, PM me and I'll point you in the right direction for advice on which is the appropriate one for your workplace, and how to go about setting up a branch. It's not that difficult, and all of a sudden you'll have anywhere from a couple of thousand to a couple of million people on your side at work. With all the knowledge, experience, and Legal back-up that implies. And your employer can't stop you - not for now, at least. We don't want to bring the country down, we don't want to turn it into a Soviet Republic. We simply want the respect and decent treatment that we deserve. We're obviously not going to get it through the Electoral System, so we have to take the alternative route while there's still time. I have kids and a grand-daughter, and it scares me the life they're going to have to endure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Labour is a classic example of what happens when your politicians have no experience of work outside politics. Labour's success in 1997 attracted career politicians of every hue - straight out of uni and straight into politics. The sole purpose of a career politician is to remain a politician. They'll do anything to remain in a job regardless of principles. The career drones were there before 1997 - Blair and his generation latched onto Labour not because of their policies, but because it was easier to find their feet in Opposition. The Labour party and any trace of its ideals died with John Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Ah John Smith - raised the dead and walked on water I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Ah John Smith - raised the dead and walked on water I heard. Whereas Thatcher privatised the water and, like Blair, sent young men to their deaths for Political Capital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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