Loondave1 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I agree with most of what you say here, Gordon, but we also have to take into account that the SNP are likely to take away the seats of the majority of Cameron's Scottish Lib-Dem coalition buddies. These are seats that Labour cannot win, so they have to rely on the SNP winning them. Every Lib-Dem seat that the SNP win is potentially worth a swing of 2 extra votes to a Labour govt with SNP support and makes a Con-Lib coalition 2 seats less likely Ah you get it !! Its not difficult but it really is a risk that Dave will survive off the back of Labours collapse.Im not suggesting that in a vote SNP get Tory way just pointing out it is factually correct and the "makes no difference" rhetoric is flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Ah you get it !! Its not difficult but it really is a risk that Dave will survive off the back of Labours collapse.Im not suggesting that in a vote SNP get Tory way just pointing out it is factually correct and the "makes no difference" rhetoric is flawed.You've misunderstood me Loon.I'm saying that serious SNP gains across the whole of Scotland will make a Tory govt less likely as the SNP will win lib-dem seats, thus making a Con/Lib coalition less likely to command a majority. Cameron should be toast if Con +Lib +DUP are less than approx 320 seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 SNP 38 Labour 18 Tories 2 Lib Dems 1 Because I am a complete shitebag. Stop being a big fat shiter! The poll numbers using the standard methodology (without the ballot paper thing) are: SNP - 49 Labour - 25 Tories - 16 Lib Dems - 6 Aye, Davie Clegg of the Record scrambling for relevance to the last, displaying the lower SNP numbers. I hope there is one Labour MP left, Kezia Dugdale, for comedy value at Holyrood. Cant wait to feel the seethe from the infidels lol Deputy Dug is an MSP, she's going nowhere unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 If the right wing play the largest party first dibs to form a Govt card it does matter.The SUN hasn't been fawning over the SNP if it makes no difference at all to Camerons chances.Ruperts not stupid. They can play whatever card they like, if they can't get through a Queens Speech, then they won't form a government. Unless, of course, Labour support them, in which case, what would be the point of Labour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 They can play whatever card they like, if they can't get through a Queens Speech, then they won't form a government. Unless, of course, Labour support them, in which case, what would be the point of Labour? Succinctly, and perfectly put. I'd give you a Charles, but I spunked today's quota on the first two P&Bers who said they've already voted SNP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Final poll from Ashcroft. 3000 strong telephone poll Britain Elects @britainelects 28 mins28 minutes ago Latest Ashcroft poll (05 - 06 May): CON - 33% (+1) LAB - 33% (+3) UKIP - 11% (-1) LDEM - 10% (-1) GRN - 6% (-1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Final poll from Ashcroft. 3000 strong telephone poll Britain Elects @britainelects 28 mins28 minutes ago Latest Ashcroft poll (05 - 06 May): CON - 33% (+1) LAB - 33% (+3) UKIP - 11% (-1) LDEM - 10% (-1) GRN - 6% (-1) Its a dead-heat, thats why it so important Scotland votes SNP today. Its crucial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 My only prediction is that I think tactical voting will play a bigger part than people think - to Labour's benefit rather than the Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 My only prediction is that I think tactical voting will play a bigger part than people think - to Labour's benefit rather than the Tories. True but it's likely that the Lib Dems will benefit too, especially where the Tories have a chance of winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Actually heard an old wifey wandering out of the polling station saying "I wouldn't normally have voted for them, but thought I better just to try and keep the SNP out". So tactical voting could well play a part, but I'm hopeful it's just unionists pissing against the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Ah you get it !! Its not difficult but it really is a risk that Dave will survive off the back of Labours collapse.Im not suggesting that in a vote SNP get Tory way just pointing out it is factually correct and the "makes no difference" rhetoric is flawed. Makes no difference rhetoric is totally flawed mate. Labour and SNP are anti Tory therefore it makes absolturely no difference if SNP take 50 seats or Labour do. The SNP are more damaging to the Tories chances of forming a government because they are looking like they'll demolish the Scottish Lib Dems( a pro Tory party) Its primary school level maths we're talking here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Said it before and will say it again 41-5. No way anything over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Said it before and will say it again 41-5. No way anything over Ive said 42 for wks now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'll go with ; SNP- 34 Labour - 19 Lib Dems - 5 Tory- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloop John B Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Did a panelbase/ populous online exit poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Scottish Lib Dem leader Willie Rennie said: “It’s now game on for the Lib Dems. We are on the verge of doing something extraordinary by winning all five of our Highlands and Islands seats against the odds. I want his career terminated by tomorrow afternoon, alongside that of Murphy. Typically embittered, SNP hating Britnat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Did a panelbase/ populous online exit poll. So they're not done by questioning people outside the polling stations? I feel betrayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'd be gutted if Labour get into double figures. They won't though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'd be gutted if Labour get into double figures. They won't though. Percentage of the vote or seats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I was completely wrong, I was a complete shitebag This is something that I am happy to admit to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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