RandomGuy. Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Aye and he was at fucking REAL MADRID 7 months ago what's your point? Eta: 2 months!! Is Zidane a "top manager"? Was Schuster? Ramos? Madrid are an absolute clusterfuck of an operation who just completely scattergun everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Is Zidane a "top manager"? Was Schuster? Ramos? Madrid are an absolute clusterfuck of an operation who just completely scattergun everything. Zidane is just into management ffs! Telling that you picked out those 2, who conveniently sit in between Capello, Pellegrini, Mourinho and Ancelotti... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 This'll be the same 'top' manager who when signed for REAL MADRID was told by the fans he wasn't wanted. Upon having an exceptionally talented squad was chased out after what - 7 months? - and has since been on the heap before being approached by Newcastle. I've no doubt he could get a job at mid table sides, ones getting into the Europa now and again (or even regularly). Just because he won the Champions League with your beloved Liverpool - doesn't make him a top manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Berndt Schuster was a top manager btw, that's why he was overlooked for the Dundee job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Benitez is not a top manager. He's a pretty good manager though. He has a decent honours list and has done a good job. It's a bit patchy though, which stops him being a "top" manager. Unless we're really moving the goalposts on what that term actually means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Zidane is just into management ffs! Telling that you picked out those 2, who conveniently sit in between Capello, Pellegrini, Mourinho and Ancelotti... My point was that Real Madrid don't exclusively hire "top" managers, so theres no point using that as some evidence that Benitez deserves that tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Fyvie Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Benitez was a top manager at Valencia and Liverpool. He's not anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 My point was that Real Madrid don't exclusively hire "top" managers, so theres no point using that as some evidence that Benitez deserves that tag. It was Deeboy who claimed he wasn't because he had just been appointed at Newcastle, I only mentioned Real Madrid because of that. And love how some people seem to think you can just lose all your managerial skills in ten year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 He's in the group of manager's below your Klopps, Peps and Ancellottis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Klopp is insanely likeable. But his achievements in general, don't compare with Benitez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 He's in the group of manager's below your Klopps, Peps and Ancellottis. achieved a lot more than klopp, he has to have a lot of success before he can be favourably compared with benitez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 And love how some people seem to think you can just lose all your managerial skills in ten year. What timeframe do you put on when you lose 'all your managerial experience' exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkmenbashi Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Klopp is insanely likeable. But his achievements in general, don't compare with Benitez. Over the past 5-6 years Klopp has achieved a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Klopp is probably the most overrated manager around purely due to the fact he's a great character and he obviously embodied that great season and a half Dortmund had. In his last season though he had an absolute Mourinho-esque nightmare at the club. And before Dortmund his achievements were alright but nothing wonderful. I'd argue that he's been distinctly average with Liverpool so far although he's obviously not been able to prepare to have a proper crack at it - which will only happen in his first full season. I don't expect wonders though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Turkmenbashi, on 12 Mar 2016 - 13:33, said:Over the past 5-6 years Klopp has achieved a lot more. Benitez won 2 La Ligas, a UEFA Cup, a CL and an FA Cup in the space of four seasons, if you're looking to just pick out timeframes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 He's in the group of manager's below your Klopps, Peps and Ancellottis. Klopp isn't in that group either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkmenbashi Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Benitez won 2 La Ligas, a UEFA Cup, a CL and an FA Cup in the space of four seasons, if you're looking to just pick out timeframes. I don't doubt there was a time when Benitez was genuinely a top manager, but over the last few years, which is probably more relevant, he hasn't achieved anything to suggest he still is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Anyone actually watching the game just now? Or just chatting about Newcastle. I am. Norwich came onto a bit of a game towards the end of the first half so hopefully they can build on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I've put the Celtic game off so I'm on it now. Dodgy stream though, so all I've had since I turned on is a guy I don't know moaning like f**k about Norwich on commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I'm watching the Scottish football as I've more interest in it, but switched over at half time and Norwich were all over City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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