strichener Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: That's a little different to water, why you would think I'd have a problem with that i have no idea You have yet to show any evidence whatsoever of "enormous amounts of water being given to England" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I may have been wrong about that, though it is an economic opportunity post independence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DI Bruce Robertson Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 All English people tend to eat their own children at birth, worship pineapples, and spray fairy dust from their arses.I might be wrong about this, but it could happen sometime in the future! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 May and the UK government have said the Scottish government doesn't have a mandate for an Independence referendum. Ah well, we'll just not bother then.. There was no mandate from the Brexit referendum but the cvnts are carrying on regardless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 16 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: There was no mandate from the Brexit referendum but the cvnts are carrying on regardless. from or for? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 from or for? Mandate for having the referendum as it was in their manifesto. The result though was technically advisory so they could choose to ignore it - but they won't. The point is that they are hypocrits when they decide what is binding and what isn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Ah well, that's it then lads. Was fun while it lasted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 18 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Mandate for having the referendum as it was in their manifesto. The result though was technically advisory so they could choose to ignore it - but they won't. The point is that they are hypocrits when they decide what is binding and what isn't. I know what you are getting at but in terms of the Tories there is no hypocrisy. Their manifesto also stated that they would honour the result of the referendum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cream Cheese Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 11 minutes ago, strichener said: but in terms of the Tories there is no hypocrisy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, Cream Cheese said: Quote We will legislate in the first session of parliament for an in-out referendum to be held on Britain's membership of the EU before the end of 2017. We will negotiate a new settlement for Britain in the EU. And then we will ask the British people whether they want to stau in on this basis or leave. We will honour the result f the referendum, whatever the outcome. That is the relevant section from the 2015 manifesto. Where is the hypocrisy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 That is the relevant section from the 2015 manifesto. Where is the hypocrisy? Clearly the hypocrisy is that they are saying there's no mandate for the SNP calling another referendum despite getting 48% of the vote whilst it was OK for the Tories to call one whilst getting 36% of the vote. I'm sure you know this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 That is the relevant section from the 2015 manifesto. Where is the hypocrisy? Ignoring the relevant section of the SNP manifesto regards holding a second referendum. So one elected government thinks it can ignore the views of another democratically elected government - one that has much more of a mandate to govern than it does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Ignoring the relevant section of the SNP manifesto regards holding a second referendum. So one elected government thinks it can ignore the views of another democratically elected government - one that has much more of a mandate to govern than it does. That's like the Scottish Government being a sub committee of a club trying to over rule the main committee. Doesn't work that way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 31 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Ignoring the relevant section of the SNP manifesto regards holding a second referendum. So one elected government thinks it can ignore the views of another democratically elected government - one that has much more of a mandate to govern than it does. We've only just had a referendum on Independence. There is no groundswell of support for another one. It's another case of the SNP doing what they want rather than what Scotland needs. The SNP should focus on making a better job of running the country and helping secure a beneficial Brexit. The SNP are putting all their energy in to creating a bogus case for indyref2 by undermining Scotland's position in the UK. With respect to the Tories they promised a referendum on EU membership, delivered it and even though the result was not what they wanted they are in the process of honouring it...... not trying to make a case for another EU referendum. The SNP should respect the result of indyref1 and get on with running this country. I'm shocked that this country tolerates their shenanigans. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, McSpreader said: The SNP should respect the result of indyref1 and get on with running this country. I'm shocked that this country tolerates their shenanigans. If only there was a way to ensure they don't govern.... oh wait! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I like how the SNP seemingly can't multi task!! All their resources and time spent on this referendum instead of 'running the country' DISGRACE!!!!!!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Ignoring the relevant section of the SNP manifesto regards holding a second referendum. So one elected government thinks it can ignore the views of another democratically elected government - one that has much more of a mandate to govern than it does. It isn't within the competence of the Scottish Government to deliver a referendum. Unfortunately David Cameron is also not PM and the current incumbent is not going to be as accommodating IMO. Edited October 20, 2016 by strichener 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I like how the SNP seemingly can't multi task!! All their resources and time spent on this referendum instead of 'running the country' DISGRACE!!!!!!!!! SNPBAD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 It isn't within the competence of the Scottish Government to deliver a referendum. Unfortunately David Cameron is also not PM and the current incumbent is not going to be as accommodating IMO. So you genuinely think that Theresa May will block another referendum if it is approved by Holyrood ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 That may be the best scenario for Independence overall. Rejecting out own independence then deciding we want it because the option is taken away would be the single most Scottish thing to ever happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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