Guest Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Next Independence referendum result odds from Paddy Power Yes - 2/5 No - 7/4 Bookies are rarely wrong etc, it's happening this time lads 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I understand your hurt and anger, Robert. It must be hard for you cap doffers knowing that Unionist parties are the ones currently slowly killing the United Kingdom. All we have to do is sit back and watch it all unfold. I can't argue with that Fide, I've said countless times that a UK vote to leave the EU would stir the independence debate again (or at least so much sooner than could be expected after defeat in Sept 2014).They either didn't see that in England & Wales or just didn't give a f*ck anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkyblue2 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Need to get back in to the EU before it implodes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: I can't argue with that Fide, I've said countless times that a UK vote to leave the EU would stir the independence debate again (or at least so much sooner than could be expected after defeat in Sept 2014). They either didn't see that in England & Wales or just didn't give a f*ck anyway. You''d have to say it was a mix of both. And the UK can't say they weren't warned. Wee Nic did repeat ad nauseum that Scotland getting dragged out of the EU against it's will would be a "material change". It's just a delightful addition that Scottish MPs are treated like utter shit in Westminster, thus making our point for us and furthering our cause. Serious question though Rob. Is the continuance of the UK entirely ideological for you? Surely you can't think the Union holds any material benefit? Edited February 10, 2017 by Fide 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: I can't argue with that Fide, I've said countless times that a UK vote to leave the EU would stir the independence debate again (or at least so much sooner than could be expected after defeat in Sept 2014). They either didn't see that in England & Wales or just didn't give a f*ck anyway. Not only did they vote to leave the UK. They decided to completely go back on letting child refugees in and voted to not protect the rights of EU citizens currently in the UK. They've basically acted like the right wing cunts that they are and we need rid of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Fide said: Serious question though Rob. Is the continuance of the UK entirely ideological for you? Surely you can't think the Union holds any material benefit? Of course it is, 'cause Rainjurs and WATP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I can't argue with that Fide, I've said countless times that a UK vote to leave the EU would stir the independence debate again (or at least so much sooner than could be expected after defeat in Sept 2014).They either didn't see that in England & Wales or just didn't give a f*ck anyway. You're (at last) quite right there Rob. They don't give a fuck. That's fine with me, they have their own problems to deal with. Time we were allowed to deal with ours (with ALL the levers of control) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Just now, DublinMagyar said: Time we were allowed to deal with ours (with ALL the levers of control) And that's "levers of control" in regular speak, not Scottish Labour speak. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 And that's "levers of control" in regular speak, not Scottish Labour speak. Scottish Labour seem to have lost their voice, either that or no one's listening anymore. Willie Rennie looks good compared with Kez these days 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 2 hours ago, 1320Lichtie said: The first away team to ibrox after the yes vote will have a fucking great time YOUR NO RANGERS ANYMORE followed by YOUR NO BRITISH ANYMORE What a tremendous time they'll have. Your flag has expired Your flag has expireeeed Just like your team Your flag has expired 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 FTIW, JP Morgan expecting Scottish independence and new currency. It's just a matter of time. http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-scotland-jpmorgan-idUKKCN0ZF165 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 You''d have to say it was a mix of both. And the UK can't say they weren't warned. Wee Nic did repeat ad nauseum that Scotland getting dragged out of the EU against it's will would be a "material change". It's just a delightful addition that Scottish MPs are treated like utter shit in Westminster, thus making our point for us and furthering our cause. Serious question though Rob. Is the continuance of the UK entirely ideological for you? Surely you can't think the Union holds any material benefit? It isn't a question of material benefit Fide, neither is it simply an ideology to hold on to. Its very real, it's who I am, my identity, my (and my family's) history, our distinct (in that it is traceable) bloodline our heritage and traditions. We come from the four corners of the UK (well not Wales as far as I know) I am British in the same way I am sure you feel (and are) Scottish. I cannot deny my British citizenship, it's something I have a real sense of pride and duty in. Imagine for a moment if you can, no longer being Scottish, it's incomprehensible eh? Yes Scotland will always geographically be part of the British Isles, but to sever the bond and ties we have with our UK neighbours and relations is unthinkable to me, although admittedly it is now looking increasingly likely post Brexit. Cue the piss taking and ridicule, that's fine but sorry, I can't explain it any better than that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 You don't deserve ridicule for coming from the three corners of a four corner union.Definitely not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 You don't deserve ridicule for coming from the three corners of a four corner union.Definitely not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 4 hours ago, RedRob72 said: Wow, the sheep have rounded up pretty sharpish this lunchtime! Ladbrokes offering 4/6 on No 2nd Ref before 2020. We offered about 1/6 on Remain to win the night before the ref 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 You don't deserve ridicule for coming from the three corners of a four corner union.Definitely not. Aye fair enough, but I think you know what I meant, geographically speaking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 We offered about 1/6 on Remain to win the night before the ref The Scottish or EU Ref!? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Just now, RedRob72 said: The Scottish or EU Ref!? EU of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 It isn't a question of material benefit Fide, neither is it simply an ideology to hold on to.Its very real, it's who I am, my identity, my (and my family's) history, our distinct (in that it is traceable) bloodline our heritage and traditions.We come from the four corners of the UK (well not Wales as far as I know) I am British in the same way I am sure you feel (and are) Scottish. I cannot deny my British citizenship, it's something I have a real sense of pride and duty in.Imagine for a moment if you can, no longer being Scottish, it's incomprehensible eh? Yes Scotland will always geographically be part of the British Isles, but to sever the bond and ties we have with our UK neighbours and relations is unthinkable to me, although admittedly it is now looking increasingly likely post Brexit.Cue the piss taking and ridicule, that's fine but sorry, I can't explain it any better than that. Rob, you come across to me as a reasonable kinda guy even if we don't agree politically (or football wise) but if you think retaining your British identity is more important than than a fairer society where decisions about Scotland are made in Scotland, by the people of Scotland, well, you can go fuck yourself. I'd still buy you a whisky 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, DublinMagyar said: Rob, you come across to me as a reasonable kinda guy even if we don't agree politically (or football wise) but if you think retaining your British identity is more important than than a fairer society where decisions about Scotland are made in Scotland, by the people of Scotland, well, you can go fuck yourself. I'd still buy you a whisky The reason society is fucked is because of reasonable people like you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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