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Loondave, you aren't coming over very well here. Is name calling all the ruk supporters have to justify their clinging to the status quo, no policies or hope for the future? I tend to skip your posts as they are invariably some snidey denigration of the SNP, the leaders of the elected Scottish Government, or of the so called "hive" membership of the SNP. Give it a rest and put forward a reason for staying better together that isn't some MSM establishment lie.

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Loondave, you aren't coming over very well here. Is name calling all the ruk supporters have to justify their clinging to the status quo, no policies or hope for the future? I tend to skip your posts as they are invariably some snidey denigration of the SNP, the leaders of the elected Scottish Government, or of the so called "hive" membership of the SNP. Give it a rest and put forward a reason for staying better together that isn't some MSM establishment lie.


Im just a bit bored to be honest.At the moment i cannot see Labour or a coalition deposing the Tories any time soon.Nor can i see an Indy2 anytime soon and a winning YES one is fantasy stuff.I like Corbyn in fact i would like him or at least someone like him North of the border with some real left policies.Ive no interest in SNP talk left with no action policies ive heard it all before.Its just all a bit depressing....
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7 minutes ago, Loondave1 said:


Im just a bit bored to be honest.At the moment i cannot see Labour or a coalition deposing the Tories any time soon.Nor can i see an Indy2 anytime soon and a winning YES one is fantasy stuff.I like Corbyn in fact i would like him or at least someone like him North of the border with some real left policies.Ive no interest in SNP talk left with no action policies ive heard it all before.Its just all a bit depressing....

You make an excellent case for the UK remaining exactly as it is - no hope for the future, eternal Tory governments and everything depressing. I can see what makes you such a staunch supporter of the British state and Scotland's wee unimportant place in it.

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You make an excellent case for the UK remaining exactly as it is - no hope for the future, eternal Tory governments and everything depressing. I can see what makes you such a staunch supporter of the British state and Scotland's wee unimportant place in it.


Im more depressed now that your strings been pulled again.
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You make an excellent case for the UK remaining exactly as it is - no hope for the future, eternal Tory governments and everything depressing. I can see what makes you such a staunch supporter of the British state and Scotland's wee unimportant place in it.


Actually as long as the Labour Party is a shambles nationally that's how its going to be.Nats who think its funny or in some way helpful need their heads examined.I know a few that revelled in the Con majority at the General election and i just thought clueless idiots.
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2 minutes ago, Loondave1 said:


Im more depressed now that your strings been pulled again.

You should perhaps focus more on your own problems. I'd suggest as the most pressing your weak grasp of literacy. Of course, no doubt that's the fault of the SNP and everyone who dares question the glorious (notwithstanding "depressing") UK. If only the SNP didn't exist, and no one ever talked about Scotland being independent, you might know how to use apostrophes. b*****ds, all!

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1 minute ago, Loondave1 said:


Actually as long as the Labour Party is a shambles nationally that's how its going to be.Nats who think its funny or in some way helpful need their heads examined.I know a few that revelled in the Con majority at the General election and i just thought clueless idiots.

You mean you didn't expect the Conservatives to form a government when you rejected the chance to prevent the possibility? Either you're a clueless idiot or you fell for ex-socialist Lord Darling's, Tory puppet Ruth Davidson's, and right winger Jim Murphy's lies. Or both.

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You should perhaps focus more on your own problems. I'd suggest as the most pressing your weak grasp of literacy. Of course, no doubt that's the fault of the SNP and everyone who dares question the glorious (notwithstanding "depressing") UK. If only the SNP didn't exist, and no one ever talked about Scotland being independent, you might know how to use apostrophes. b*****ds, all!


Aye use of apostrophes can only improve in an independent Scotland that might swing me over.I think lack and inappropriate use of them is a symptom of the overall decline in the UK to be honest.Or i don't give a shit I'm undecided.
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You mean you didn't expect the Conservatives to form a government when you rejected the chance to prevent the possibility? Either you're a clueless idiot or you fell for ex-socialist Lord Darling's, Tory puppet Ruth Davidson's, and right winger Jim Murphy's lies. Or both.


The laughable White Paper was enough for me to reject most things.
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32 minutes ago, Loondave1 said:


Actually as long as the Labour Party is a shambles nationally that's how its going to be.Nats who think its funny or in some way helpful need their heads examined.I know a few that revelled in the Con majority at the General election and i just thought clueless idiots.

Why is Labour being inept bad for the independence movement?

The rise of the SNP and the strength of the independence movement has coincided almost exactly with the deepening shambles of Labour. In some ways that's obvious. To win power and be able to call referendums, the SNP need a pro-independence majority in Holyrood, which is easier with Labour in tatters.

I'm guessing the option of staying within the UK seems worse to most Scots if Labour are not a credible force UK-wide.

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17 hours ago, Loondave1 said:

Indy is dead for a decade and maybe for longer. Hints about it will be required to keep the masses on board in expectation of the great day.Any day now, any day now....

Could it be that it's dead because of the £1.4 million they get from the hated Westminster/UK tax payer; assosiated with having MPs in the Commons, and only £5000 from active individual donors.

National Socialist's eh, wit are they like.

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