parsforlife Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 30/01/2022 at 15:18, Loki said: I feel the GOAT argument is a bit daft mainly as each of the big three have talents that are specifically suited to a surface. We have 65% hard court, 25% clay and 10% grass. If we were to switch those about to reflect each players best surface it would be a different result. You make a lot of good points, but on this surely there's an argument that having your game work best on the surfaces used most often is a factor in being the GOAT? *appreciating surfaces have changed over time, but not hugely during the development or career of the players that made this era. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 20 minutes ago, parsforlife said: You make a lot of good points, but on this surely there's an argument that having your game work best on the surfaces used most often is a factor in being the GOAT? *appreciating surfaces have changed over time, but not hugely during the development or career of the players that made this era. Yeah absolutely. You can use different criteria and get a different answer each time. Collectively they are the greatest to ever play the sport. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Loki said: Yeah absolutely. You can use different criteria and get a different answer each time. Collectively they are the greatest to ever play the sport. 100%, and the fact you can move the criteria around and still end up with the same group of players(if in a different order) is part of what's so impressive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: Disagree. Djokovic could easily win Wimbledon, US and next years Oz. I still fancy Nole to finish on top of pile Will he be allowed in? Edited January 31, 2022 by Lurkst 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lurkst said: Will he be allowed in? He’s automatically banned from re-entering for 3 years but …. “Mr Hawke's decision to use his ministerial powers under the Migration Act also means Djokovic is now barred from returning to Australia for the next three years, "except in certain circumstances” “Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews noted if Djokovic had a "compelling reason" in the future it would be considered but that it was "all hypothetical at this point". "Any application will be reviewed on its merits,"” ETA: As there is a Federal Election due later this year more likely than not there will be a change of Government. How they are doing in the polls come November/December might determine how they view any application. Edited February 1, 2022 by Eednud 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Yeah, Djokovic will clearly have won the most when they’re all finished. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Its all ifs and buts, but if Djokovic hadn't smacked the lines person with ball and taken his vaccines, he'd already be on 22 imo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMc93 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Andy Murray on the lookout for a new coach. Best I could manage for available coaches was the lists below and no doubt he'll pick someone not on either. https://www.atptour.com/en/players/coaches https://www.wtatennis.com/coaches/list 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Looks like he will be working with Dani Vallverdu agaIn. And will more than likely be training with Stan Wawrinka in between the tournaments in Rotterdam, Doha and Dubai. In better news Juan Martin Del Potro returns next week. Just hope his body can hold up for some kind of comeback. The sound of his forehand smashing the ball has been sorely missed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Loki said: Looks like he will be working with Dani Vallverdu agaIn. And will more than likely be training with Stan Wawrinka in between the tournaments in Rotterdam, Doha and Dubai. In better news Juan Martin Del Potro returns next week. Just hope his body can hold up for some kind of comeback. The sound of his forehand smashing the ball has been sorely missed. Del Potro is probably my favourite non-Andy Murray tennis player. Just an absolute warrior. He's basically an Argentinian Andy, but even more injury prone 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 On 30/01/2022 at 16:31, Left Back said: What’s the factor that makes Nadal so dominant on clay? What’s he got or what does he do that’s different to everyone else? Ask his doctor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 What’s the factor that makes Nadal so dominant on clay? What’s he got or what does he do that’s different to everyone else?Stamina, top spin and a decent forehand for the high bounce. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 04/02/2022 at 21:40, Mark Connolly said: Del Potro is probably my favourite non-Andy Murray tennis player. Just an absolute warrior. He's basically an Argentinian Andy, but even more injury prone He’s said he’s going to retire after this tournament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Loki said: He’s said he’s going to retire after this tournament. Maybe he's Andy's new coach? Not sure either of them could handle that much emotion though! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Andy is dropping the bombs today, he will skip the full clay season as it is not good for his body. He will play Sasha Bublik in the first round of Rotterdam and then potentially Felix AA in the next round. He will be in the top 100 tomorrow so should not need wild cards for Miami and Indian Wells. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Del Potro announces his retirement. Legend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Good decision by Andy to swerve the clay, he was never really any good on it anyway.Keep himself fresh for the grass and what you’d assume is a Wimbledon swan song in the summer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Del Potro announces his retirement. LegendI've clicked like, but not really for the content. If there was one match I wouldn't have been too annoyed at Andy losing, it would have been the Rio Gold medal match. Really sorry to see Delpo retire, a career latterly ruined by injury. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 I have seen Del Potro play live twice - in the Davis Cup in Glasgow and in the US Open in 2017. The thing that struck me the most was the sound of the raquet hitting the ball when he unleashed a forehand. Incredible. Nadal and Federer have never met at the US Open. The closest it ever came to happening was in 2009 and 2017. If both won their matches they would have played that historic match. Both years the Tower of Tandil intervened. Beating Nadal in straight sets in 09 and winning his only slam by beating Federer. Also worth noting in that run he also beat Cilic in the QF. In 2017 he destroyed Federer in the QF and took Nadal apart in the first set, but his backhand just wasn’t up to standard and Nadal wore him down. In 2016 he reduced Djokovic to a weeping mess at the side of the court as he knocked him out in the first round of the Olympics. He then beat Nadal to secure at least a silver and in 2012 beat Djokovic to take the bronze. A five set epic in Glasgow ended Murray’s Davis Cup run, and he went on to win the Davis Cup that year. A quite brilliant tennis player at his best, sadly ruined by injury. His tennis resume may only say one slam and one Masters, but he is worth more than that. Davis Cup, two Olympic medals and the only player to have played all of the big four in Masters finals. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Clyde Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Ask his doctor.Yes, amazing that Nadal's form dropped off a cliff after his doctor got done for giving loads of athletes performance enhancers. The Carl Lewis of tennis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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