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Nadal isn't playing for Spain in Davis Cup the week after Wimbledon so don't think he'll be back soon.

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Yeah, I knew that. I don't think that fact in itself means much. Any player carrying an injury is fairly unlikely to opt to play Davis Cup, especially with Spain's squad as strong as it is anyway.

He might be back for the start of the hardcourt season or he might not. We'll see. He obviously wasn't that far away from being fit for Wimbledon given he tried two exhibition matches the week before. Also the return to the Masters circuit means 3 set matches, not five which will be more attractive.

Having said that he plainly isn't a big fan of hardcourts and it's probably the worst surface for his knees. He may just decide to give it a miss and rest up properly. Depends how important retaining No 1 spot is to him.

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Yeah, it's up to him really. His career might have to be curtailed or at least a shorter schedule but it'll be difficult for him to recapture & retain his no1 spot in the face of younger, fitter competition.

Can't believe i'm saying younger - Nadal's 23 ffs....

....although his knees are much older :ph34r:

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how annoying are some of the chants wneh he's playing.

'C'mon Andy!'

'I love you Andy!'

'I ll have your babies for you Andy!'

gie it a rest, it's especially when somes about to serve and they re still shouting!

Annie McGuire?

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When does the hard court season start? Also, anyone know what is most likely to be Murrays first event?

In about a fortnight.

There's the only grass court tournament in the USA at Newport next week but most of the bigger players won't play in that. Murray hasn't entered it.

It's Davis Cup Q-F's this coming week too.

The first tournament of the hard court season is the Indianapolis Open starting 19th July. It's only an ATP250 event though. The Hamburg Open which is an ATP500 event and has gone back in the calender somewhat this season is the same week. That's a clay court event. The bigger players will play there if at all because there's more ranking points at stake.

There are a few clay and hard court events of similar standard up against one another in the calendar over the rest of July before the next ATP Masters 1000 event begins 8th August in Montreal. Murray will definitely play there. I'd guess he'll play the ATP500 event in Washington the week before. Not sure he'll play much before that. He may play in Hamburg I suppose.

EDIT - Having checked, he hasn't entered the Hamburg Open.

EDITED AGAIN - On his own website there's an interview saying he's now got five weeks off before his next tournament which would place it in Montreal. Looks like he isn't even playing Washington.

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In about a fortnight.

There's the only grass court tournament in the USA at Newport next week but most of the bigger players won't play in that. Murray hasn't entered it.

It's Davis Cup Q-F's this coming week too.

The first tournament of the hard court season is the Indianapolid Open starting 19th July. It's only an ATP250 event though. The Hamburg Open which is an ATP500 event and has gone back in the calender somewhat this season is the same week. That's a clay court event. The bigger players will play there if at all because there's mroe ranking points at stake.

There are a few clay and hard court events of similar standard up against one another in the calendar over the rest of July before the next ATP Masters 1000 event begins 8th August in Montreal. Murray will definitely play there. I'd guess he'll play the ATP500 event in Washington the week before. Not sure he'll play much before that. He may play in Hamburg I suppose.

EDIT - Having checked, he hasn't entered the Hamburg Open.

Surely Murray would be better off playing in the Indianapolis event anyway, as he would be an excellent bet to win, but is likely to struggle on the Hamburg clay, especially if the better players are there. I assume there is more points on offer for winning the Indianapolis event than being a losing semi-finalist in Hamburg.

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Surely Murray would be better off playing in the Indianapolis event anyway, as he would be an excellent bet to win, but is likely to struggle on the Hamburg clay, especially if the better players are there. I assume there is more points on offer for winning the Indianapolis event than being a losing semi-finalist in Hamburg.

There are effectively no points on offer at all so it just comes down to whether he feels it best to prepare in Indy, Hamburg or by working on his own.

Rankings points aren't open ended. You don't get to play 52 weeks and accumulate millions of points by default because others aren't playing. It's your best 18 events that count, including mandatory counting of the Slams and Masters 1000 events. Even if Murray won in Indy it wouldn't help his points total. The 250 points he "won" at Queens aren't in his current "Best 18" either, though they will be once Indianapolis is past because the 0 points he's carrying as a penalty for not showing up at that tournament last year having entered will drop off.

In theory if he won in Hamburg and picked up 500 points he could improve his rankings points as it would replace one of the carrying 250's but anything less than victory would do him no good, there's no real likelihood of his winning on clay with some clay specialists entered, and none of the other players in the top six are entered either.

Like I said, I'm a little surprised he's not playing the ATP500 at Washington the week before though. Maybe he is and he's miscounted the number of weeks to his next game in his site interview?

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There are effectively no points on offer at all so it just comes down to whether he feels it best to prepare in Indy, Hamburg or by working on his own.

Rankings points aren't open ended. You don't get to play 52 weeks and accumulate millions of points by default because others aren't playing. It's your best 18 events that count, including mandatory counting of the Slams and Masters 1000 events. Even if Murray won in Indy it wouldn't help his points total. The 250 points he "won" at Queens aren't in his current "Best 18" either, though they will be once Indianapolis is past because the 0 points he's carrying as a penalty for not showing up at that tournament last year having entered will drop off.

In theory if he won in Hamburg and picked up 500 points he could improve his rankings points as it would replace one of the carrying 250's but anything less than victory would do him no good, there's no real likelihood of his winning on clay with some clay specialists entered, and none of the other players in the top six are entered either.

Like I said, I'm a little surprised he's not playing the ATP500 at Washington the week before though. Maybe he is and he's miscounted the number of weeks to his next game in his site interview?

Fair enough, didn't realise it wouldn't help his points total even if he won.

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Well, Andy lost his zero pointer from last year's Indy tournament, and picked up the 250 he got at Doha instead. Without playing then, this moves him to within almost 1000 of Nadal in 2nd place.

Due to last year's Olympics, the schedules for tournaments dropping off is a bit all over the place right now. On Monday coming, the points from last year's Masters series in Toronto will come off. Murray reached the semis, but Nadal was the champion a year ago, so will lose more points, effectively meaning Murray will close the gap further, albeit temporarily.

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Murray's hard court season starts today when he plays Jeremy Chardy in the 2nd round of the Montreal Masters. It's on Sky Sports Extra at some point after 4pm.

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Murray's hard court season starts today when he plays Jeremy Chardy in the 2nd round of the Montreal Masters. It's on Sky Sports Extra at some point after 4pm.

Noticed andy and Hutchins lost in the doubles, while rafa and his COACH sumhow managed to beat novak djokovic an his partner, strange that rafa would want to put his knees through extra matches

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how annoying are some of the chants wneh he's playing.

'C'mon Andy!'

'I love you Andy!'

'I ll have your babies for you Andy!'

gie it a rest, it's especially when somes about to serve and they re still shouting!

and thats just from his mum :P

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