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If Nadal does pull out of Wimbledon or goes out in the First Round, Murray can get within 15 points of Nadal by winning Wimbledon. Federer will retake number one spot by winning at SW19. Murray will go ahead of Federer if he wins it. Djokovic will only lose 70 points so can make up alot of ground in the rankings. If he makes the final and Murray goes no further than the quarter finals they will have the same amount of points.

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If Nadal does pull out of Wimbledon or goes out in the First Round, Murray can get within 15 points of Nadal by winning Wimbledon. Federer will retake number one spot by winning at SW19. Murray will go ahead of Federer if he wins it. Djokovic will only lose 70 points so can make up alot of ground in the rankings. If he makes the final and Murray goes no further than the quarter finals they will have the same amount of points.

Do the points from Queens count this year (I'm sure they were non-countable last year :unsure:)?

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Do the points from Queens count this year (I'm sure they were non-countable last year :unsure:)?

Depends.

It's not a mandatory counting tournament. It would count for players for whom it's one of their best "other" tournaments outside of the Grand Slam and Masters events.

Last year's Queens Club points are included for Nadal for instance but not for Murray. I would imagine this year's points for Murray will be counted and replace those he won in Doha, though I'm not certain at what level Queens has been re-classified this year and it might actually not be any better than the points he got for winning in Doha.

EDIT - A bit of research reveals points available for Queens this year HAVE been downgraded and Murray gets 250 for winning. That's the same as he's carrying for Doha so he's actually no better off.

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i have to admit at times murray still looked capable of hitting another gear throughout last week. On wimbledon i still think murray has alot to learn over five set matches, but i dont he ll do any worse than make the quarters.

I'd be surprised if he didn't make the quarters. Depending on the draw he could easily make the semis, he will be seeded to do so after all.

Unlike on clay, there aren't that many specialist grass courters lower down the draw who could blow the seeding wide open and Murray is himself decent on grass, better than he is on clay anyway, though it isn't his best surface. There's probably no Ivanisevic out there.

He'll obviously be second favourite to Nadal or Federer but he couldn't meet them before the semi finals. A fit Roddick is certainly dangerous on grass as is anyone else with a big booming serve (Ivo Karlovic perhaps?). Five set specialists like Nalbandian (though way out of form) and Davydenko could also be a problem. But guys like Gonzalez and Verdasco are much less a threat to Murray on grass and should hold no great fears.

Should be interesting. If Nadal is obviously having problems with the knees then Murray might not get a better chance to win Wimbledon (he'll get better chances to win at Flushing Meadow). Federer will see history opening up in front of him though and it's a long long time since anyone other than Nadal even gave him a game at Wimbledon.

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Thought he barely got out of third gear on Sunday.

There is such a talent gap between the top 4 and the rest.

Still think that's under-rating Del Potro. He isn't that far behind (though he's far weaker on grass granted).

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Considering Blake is an ex world number 1 and still in his twenties I was surprised by the difference in quality. He was 7/1 to beat Murray on Sunday.

I agree the gulf in class is huge between the top 4 and the rest.

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Agree with SD, as long as Del Potro improves his consistency (and given his age I think that's very likely) then he'll be pressing the top 4 hard very soon. He's a lot further on than Murray was at that age (although probably comparable rankings wise to Djokovic), and for me has more guile than Djokovic, which could be the difference in pushing him into the top 4.

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Still think that's under-rating Del Potro. He isn't that far behind

Yeah, maybe. He's clearly the only real prospect of breaking into the top 4.

I still think he is a bit one dimensional though.

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Considering Blake is an ex world number 1 and still in his twenties I was surprised by the difference in quality. He was 7/1 to beat Murray on Sunday.

Eh!

James Blake has never been remotely near to a World Number 1 ranking. I've no idea where you got that idea from? His highest ranking was 4 in November 2006 and he's currently 17, having spent only a few weeks inside the top six in his entire career. He's also 29 years old which is getting on for a veteran in tennis terms.

He is a half decent grass court player but probably wouldn't have made the final if Roddick hadn't injured himself in their semi final. He has never been further than the last eight of ANY Grand Slam tournament in his entire career.

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