TheScarf Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, scottsdad said: He was one of the 3 greatest racing drivers of all time. But the point about who he was up against is fair enough. His opponents at the time include Graham Hill, Jack Brabham, John Surtees, Denny Hulme...and many more. No, then. So he was better than the likes of Schumacher, Prost, Lauda? Edited July 1, 2021 by TheScarf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeefc1783 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 You clearly don't have the first clue about what it takes to be a top class cyclist.Both Murray and Hoy will have put hours into their sports and both are up there as the best we've produced.For me though, the greatest individual sportsman we've produced is still Jim Clark.Very little skill involved it's all about fitness. Yeah clearly he is a very fit guy and has put a lot of work into that but to suggest he is anywhere near the level of some like Andy Murray is absolutely crazyIf Josh Taylor continues to win at the highest level for next couple of years he surely has to be up there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeefc1783 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 It really doesn't. I'd wager most users on this forum won't have a clue who Jim Clark was.Has statue in the village of Kilmany Fife where he was born 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Just now, dundeefc1783 said: 35 minutes ago, TheScarf said: It really doesn't. I'd wager most users on this forum won't have a clue who Jim Clark was. Has statue in the village of Kilmany Fife where he was born And? Ask anyone in the street in any part of the UK who Jim Clark was and you can guarantee about 90% of folk won't have a clue who he was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Was he up against the 3 greatest race drivers of all time when he won all these races?Going by that logic Andy Murray is more of a great than Messi or Ronaldo as they didn't play against Pele or Maradona. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, jaggyness said: 41 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Was he up against the 3 greatest race drivers of all time when he won all these races? Going by that logic Andy Murray is more of a great than Messi or Ronaldo as they didn't play against Pele or Maradona. What? What kind of fucking logic is that? That's nothing close to what I'm arguing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 What? [emoji23] What kind of fucking logic is that? That's nothing close to what I'm arguing.It's quite simple, you're basing your argument about Clark on your opinion that he wasn't competing against greats of the sport (ignoring the fact that he is a great of his sport). So rather than compare judge someone on their own merits. Have you never heard of the saying you can only beat what's in front of you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Anyway, Medvedev is looking very good so far this afternoon. Probably the best outwith Novak so far this week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Guys, Murray is the Scottish/British GOAT of sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Elixir said: Guys, Murray is the Scottish/British GOAT of sport. The fact that’s there’s people trying to argue otherwise is both terrifying and hilarious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kersey Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 47 minutes ago, Elixir said: Guys, Murray is the Scottish/British GOAT of sport. Is he f**k. Jocky Wilson is the greatest Scottish sportsman of all time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Paul Kersey said: Is he f**k. Jocky Wilson is the greatest Scottish sportsman of all time. I’ve more time for this view than Lewis f***ing Hamilton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Federer is 40 in a few weeks, still gliding around the court effortlessly. His physical conditioning is something else.Get the feeling he could be in the top 20 when he was 50, if he fancied it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 This S Tormo wifie is so fucking annoying with her “uuuurgggh urrrrghhh”. Hope Kerber pumps her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: I’ve more time for this view than Lewis f***ing Hamilton Me too. Hamilton isn’t Scottish 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Left Back said: Me too. Hamilton isn’t Scottish Erm it’s near Motherwell m74 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Fantastic result for Emma Raducanu with a straight sets win over former French Open finalist Marketa Vondrousova, who is ranked almost 300 places above her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 If you include Konta, 17 of the women's seeds are are already out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Is grass the most unpredictable surface? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 No, then. So he was better than the likes of Schumacher, Prost, Lauda?Keep digging 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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