AMMjag Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 People laughed when i said anya was over.rated.. Doubt anyone noticed tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 f**k sake. Strachan should go because he didn't win points against the world champions. What a ridiculous argument. And lost in Georgia and failed to beat Poland, thus placing even third place beyond us with a game remaining. If you're happy with it though, then that's nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 And lost in Georgia and failed to beat Poland, thus placing even third place beyond us with a game remaining.If you're happy with it though, then that's nice. Of course I'm not happy, but I realise that changing the manager does not automatically bring improvements. Scotland fans know this more than any fans. That was a very mixed campaign. I was very disappointed with the team's performance / result once. Just once. I was proud of the performance / result in at least 3 games (including Thursday night - as crushing as the ending was). Mixed campaign, tough circumstances with Ireland getting 4 off Germany. Strachan deserves another shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowdenConvert Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Mixed campaign, tough circumstances with Ireland getting 4 off Germany. Strachan deserves shot.FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Of course I'm not happy, but I realise that changing the manager does not automatically bring improvements. Scotland fans know this more than any fans. That was a very mixed campaign. I was very disappointed with the team's performance / result once. Just once. I was proud of the performance / result in at least 3 games (including Thursday night - as crushing as the ending was). Mixed campaign, tough circumstances with Ireland getting 4 off Germany. Strachan deserves another shot. Of course, changing doesn't bring automatic improvement, but I'd suggest that not changing is far less likely to. Proud of performance 3 times? Easier pleased than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Of course, changing doesn't bring automatic improvement, but I'd suggest that not changing is far less likely to.Proud of performance 3 times?Easier pleased than me. Really? Germany away, Poland away and Ireland at home were great performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Really? Germany away, Poland away and Ireland at home were great performances. No they weren't. They were decent performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Of course, changing doesn't bring automatic improvement, but I'd suggest that not changing is far less likely to.Proud of performance 3 times?Easier pleased than me. I'd suggest you have unrealistic expectations for this group of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I'd suggest you have unrealistic expectations for this group of players. I'm well aware of this group of players' limitations. I'm also aware of the limitations of the Irish group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Of course, changing doesn't bring automatic improvement, but I'd suggest that not changing is far less likely to.Proud of performance 3 times?Easier pleased than me. Michael O'Neil hardly lit the place up in his first campaign or two with northern ireland. Plenty of managers show gradual and steady improvement, or sometimes even significant improvement. Can I ask, we're you someone who wanted Craig brown, berti vogts, George Burley, and Craig levein sacked too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I'm well aware of this group of players' limitations.I'm also aware of the limitations of the Irish group. And we beat them head to head!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Would give GS more time though the stats say he's no better than Levein. He needs to lose some of the driftwood though. The Fletchers, Hutton and Forrest for a start. Brown and Mulgrew need some rest/ bench time/ kick up the erse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I would rather he stayed but at the same time I'm not overly bothered if he goes as long as we get someone half decent in and don't just go for a cheap option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 And we beat them head to head!!! Yes and finished well behind them in a small league. That's how qualification works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Can I ask, we're you someone who wanted Craig brown, berti vogts, George Burley, and Craig levein sacked too? Of course. Giving both Vogts and Levein the start of a second campaign, served to prolong our tournament exile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Of course. Giving both Vogts and Levein the start of a second campaign, served to prolong our tournament exile. So do you just keep thinking we keep getting the wrong man in? For almost 20 years - one decent campaign and even that ended in failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbp1960 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Think Jordan Rhodes, Andy Robertson and Graham Shinnie will be pleased to see him go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 So do you just keep thinking we keep getting the wrong man in? For almost 20 years - one decent campaign and even that ended in failure. I think a succession of managers have failed to get us to punch at or above our limited weight for a long time now. The two in that period who have done better, were tempted away by clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawfieldAggro Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 We beat them head to head. The difference was the 4 points they got from the best team in the world. You've got to tip your hat to O'Neil and the irish for those two games but you can't describe them as anything other than freak results. Who the f**k is saying that Strachan is a prophet? Most sensible Scotland fans think we are limited as a squad and he is probably getting the most out of them (with the odd frustrating performance like Georgia away - and every Scotland manager ever gets the odd game like that). On balance most fans think he deserves another campaign to see if he can eek out a qualification. I don't think you're seeing this. Looking at a table at the end (or in.our case, when everyone else still has important games to play) serves as a guide to how it all mapped out.....beating Ireland is only one step of that. The idea that defeating a suposed 'equal' team is an end in itself is precisely the reason persistent and increasingly explicit failures are now met with expectation than dread. Go and gloat to any plastic paddy about our results, im sure if you ask nicely he'll send you a postcard from the Cote d'Azur or Champs-Elysees in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 The comments on STV this evening make it sound like he's staying. Either that or he's heavily sugar coating the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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